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American Citizens ‘Trapped’ By Violent Migrant Gang In Aurora, Colorado

Darwin Nercesian - comments 204 comments

Councilwoman Danielle Jurinsky has shined light on a frightening situation unfolding in Aurora, Colorado, by leaking footage of a Venezuelan migrant prison gang storming The Edge at Lowry, an apartment complex in the Denver metro city. Jurinsky announced that heavily armed men have seized control of the buildings, which are full of American citizens, carrying out violent robberies, shootings and assaults, causing a terrifying ordeal for residents who are now trapped with their families under horrifying conditions. She describes trash littered throughout the buildings, broken windows, vandalism and lots of guns. According to Jurinsky, the gang has attacked management, causing them to flee in fear, and is now “actively patrolling” the complexes unchallenged. The apartment investor told The New York Post they’ve “lost control” of several properties with the gang taking over multiple units.

“They were first hanging out around the property and creating a bad element that’s constantly there. And then they started taking over, quite a few months ago, they started taking over vacant units,” they told the Post.  

Speaking with TMZ Thursday about the now-viral video, Jurinsky said she released the footage in response to politicians she felt were not moving fast enough to stop the danger and protect the lives of residents, instead playing politics out of fear of stirring the pot and losing reelection, as many of the gang members are undocumented migrants. She also claims the video is not exactly new, stating that authorities have been aware of the situation for some time. According to a local news station, the footage was captured earlier in August shortly before a shootout at the complex severely injured one person and damaged multiple cars.

Aurora Police and the DEA have confirmed that Tren de Aragua, the prison gang represented by these terrorists, is operating in the area. The gang, which hails from Venezuela’s Aragua region, has been sending its members across the U.S.-Mexico border for years, expanding recruitment efforts within the U.S. as well among migrant communities in New York, Denver, and Chicago. Homeland Security sources have confirmed that Tren de Aragua has been linked to multiple high-profile crimes in sanctuary states, including the shooting of two NYPD officers in June and the murder of Georgia nursing student, Laken Riley. A Homeland Security memo warned that Tren de Aragua’s leadership recently gave a “green light” for members to shoot and attack law enforcement officers across the U.S, while the gang is also said to be smuggling guns into local migrant shelters. Statements issued Thursday suggest the Aurora Police Department has set up a joint task force to deal with Tren de Aragua. 

The New York Post recently identified the gang’s “shot-caller” in the Colorado region, as Jhonardy Jose Pacheco-Chirino, known as “Galleta,” meaning “Cookie” in Spanish. Pacheco-Chirino was arrested but set free on bail after he and fellow gang members brutally beat a man at an apartment complex allegedly run by the terror organization. He was arrested once again in Aurora in July for a shooting that took place at the same complex, leaving two men wounded.

Jean Torres-Roman, 21, another Tren de Aragua gang member, was involved in a violent robbery caught on camera on June 25 in a Denver jewelry store. Torres-Roman was released from custody in Chicago only a month before the burglary, after getting caught attempting to stash a stolen gun. He fled from Colorado to El Paso, Texas, where he was caught at a local motel.

Tren de Aragua gang member, Jean Torres-Roman, 21, arrested in El Paso, Texas by Homeland Security Agents.

Cindy and Edward Romero expressed that they had been trying to move out of the complex into safer living conditions, but could not get the help they needed. “We couldn’t get any help. We tried reaching out to resources, but they told us since it was not a condemned building, we would have to wait ’til that was the issue, but we didn’t want to wait for that,” Edward Romero told the local news. In a stunningly heroic turn of events, Jurinsky herself with the help of several police officers provided that help, rescuing the family from the complex on Wednesday amidst gang infighting over the soon-to-be unoccupied space, even witnessing the gang move things into the apartment as it was being vacated.

According to Cindy Romero, “It’s been a nightmare and I can’t wait to get out of here,” The couple recounted their experience, explaining that the violence began when a large number of migrants moved into the building. Cindy described using five locks on the apartment door, arranged from top to bottom combined with a door jammer home security bar. “Every day when we come home, we have to do this every time we go outside to take out the garbage,” continuing, “Every time we go to bed at night. We have to keep like this so that nobody can kick in the door.” The family’s car was one of the vehicles riddled with bullets after the shootout.

Councilwoman Jurinsky has been outspoken regarding Tren de Aragua, and a leading voice against incentives offered to migrants in Aurora, as the influx of Venezuelan gang members overruns the suburb populated by 390,000 residents.

“The city nonprofits have lined up to help the migrants that have come here but nobody is helping the Americans that are trapped in these apartment complexes,” Jurinsky reported to the local news. “This isn’t just Americans. Other Venezuelans are being extorted by this gang.”

Jurinsky has become fed up with state leaders who have allowed sanctuary policies to roll out a proverbial welcome mat to the Venezuelan prison gang, which has unleashed violent crime and terror into her community. Denver has received the largest number of migrants per capita in the nation, attracting more than 40,000 arrivals since December 2022 due to these policies. Tren de Aragua came with them, ultimately spilling out of the Sanctuary City and into suburban Aurora, situated directly east of the Mile High City.

In recent months, Colorado Governor Jared Polis signed legislation into effect supporting migrant efforts in the state, making it easier for them to obtain driver’s licenses, attend schools and acquire taxpayer-funded resources. This is in light of his previous 2023 decision to start busing them to New York City when the influx of migrants became too much for the state to handle. That program has since been discontinued.

In a shocking dismissal by Governor Polis, his office referred to the anger over Tren de Aragua’s taking over of apartment buildings in the Denver suburb of Aurora as “largely a feature of Danielle Jurinsky’s imagination,” despite viral video footage, police reports and the city’s own mayor confirming that the atrocity is real and taking place at this very moment. The Democratic Governer’s spokesperson, Shelby Wieman, had this to say to the Post, “The Governor has already let the Mayor know that the State is ready to support the local police department with assistance from state troopers and the Colorado Bureau of Investigation if needed,” adding that “it’s illegal to take over buildings in Colorado” and that the governor’s office is “ready to assist” authorities if Jurinsky has “knowledge” of such activity.

In further deflection, Wieman states, “He really hopes that the city council members in charge stop trashing their own city when they are supposed to keep it safe. We know violent crime in Aurora went down between 2022-2023, fully expect the data will show further declines for 2024 and the recent misinformation campaign threatens actual criminal investigations and could hurt the climate for small businesses in Aurora.”

Despite the governor’s dismissal of the developing situation and continued embrace of Colorado’s sanctuary policies, the evidence is clear, as Fox Denver aired the surveillance video released by Jurinsky on Wednesday night, showing the armed gang, later confirmed by police as suspected members of Tren de Aragua, strolling armed through the overrun apartment complex. Additionally, Aurora Mayor Mike Coffman, spoke to Fox News on Thursday stating, “there are several buildings” that have “fallen to these Venezuelan gangs” in his city. Coffman says he believes the buildings being used as taxpayer-funded migrant housing provided a foothold for the gangs to take over.

The New York Post asked the governor’s office if it intends to backtrack its statement given the overwhelming evidence of Tren de Aragua’s takeover. There was no response as of Thursday evening.

Councilwoman Danielle Jurinsky

Councilwoman Jurinsky had a strong message for Governor Polis and Denver Mayor Michael Christopher Johnston.

“To our governor and to the mayor of Denver, I refuse to be silenced. I refuse to play the game of politics with you regarding this migrant crisis. And I will continue to speak up and speak out and help as many people as I can,” Jurinsky told The Post. The councilwoman also pointed the finger at the Biden-Harris administration, saying the people of Aurora are “suffering” at their “hands.”

204 Comments

  1. This could have probably all been averted if the existing tenants had merely reached out and welcomed the new arrivals, perhaps with a plate of warm chocolate chip cookies. As anyone who’s had to relocate can tell you, it just takes awhile to adjust to your new surroundings. Can’t we just all get along?
    Now sing it with me – Kumbaya….
    //s

    • And THIS BS is what awaits America if you vote Dim. Or welcome illegal aliens from south of the border. The pathetic po-leece are constrained by gringo law & cowardice. Pathetic😧

      • “And THIS BS is what awaits America if you vote Dim“

        Help me out here, doesn’t Aurora, Colorado have both a Republican mayor and a Republican city council?

        “Mike Coffman is the Mayor of Aurora in Colorado. He assumed office on December 2, 2019. His current term ends in 2027.

        Coffman ran for re-election for Mayor of Aurora in Colorado. He won in the general election on November 7, 2023.

        Coffman is a former Republican representative from Colorado’s 6th Congressional District in the U.S. House.“

        Interesting, and he’s been mayor for almost 5 years, now in his second term?

        But it’s all the Democrats fault?

        Oh well, forget I said anything, we wouldn’t want the facts to interfere with y’all’s opinion.

        • For anyone seeking the perpetrators of the invasion mess, Polis, Mayorkas, and Harris are the facts more relevant the mayor…

        • Yeah, this guy’s right! Each mayor sets immigration policy for their town! It’s impossible for people to drive across a town border without direct permission from the City Council.

          • Each city’s mayor and city Council hire/fire the chief of police, they set the community standards for policing and are held accountable by the electorate.

            The violence from the illegal Venezuelan immigrants is state level crime, clearly within the scope of practice of the city’s law-enforcement organizations under the supervision of the city’s mayor and city council.

            To pretend otherwise to attack your political opponent is in the end, unpatriotic.

            • COOL STORY, BRO!!! Now apply it to your deranged, TDS comments about the Bad Orange Man, Ted Cruz, etc. . . . you lying sack of shite.

              If American citizens (an issue, right there) choose to re-elect DJT (for the third time, most likely), and idiots like you oppose his policies, that means it’s . . . whose fault, exactly, if he succeeds in implementing his policies???

              Jeebus, MajorIdiot, if logic ever entered your (pathetically tiny) mind, it would expire from lack of being exercised. Are WE not responsible for the leaders we elect?? Methinks you are even more of an idiot than I thought (and YES, that means/implies that WE are responsible for dealing with them . . . including the Jeffersonian solution. Y’all better be careful what you wish for).

        • Read up on CO state laws that tie the hands of local law enforcement when it concerns illegal immigrants. Look at the party that made it law. It’s a pattern in every blue state. Facts.

    • “We get the kind of government we deserve…”
      Gee – it’s call stupidity, the American Pandemic – not the other fake pandemic which was just further evidence of the endemic stupidity and, well etc.
      Down the rabbit whole we go OR where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?

      • What i can’t believe is that politicians are keeping it hush shush. This os not how we do things in America!! Aggggggjhhhhhhhhh

        • “What i can’t believe is that politicians are keeping it hush shush“

          So you’re suggesting the Republican mayor and city council of Aurora, Colorado are keeping it all hush ‘shush’… fascinating.

          “Aggggggjhhhhhhhhh!!!”

          • MajorLiar,

            NO, you blithering, babbling MORON!! We (libertarian/right) fully acknowledge that many (most?) of our politicians are stupid/corrupt. I can STILL admit that a right-wing politician is stupid/corrupt, and think they are ‘better than the alternative’, but UNLIKE you Leftist/fascist idiots, I don’t have to blow smoke up my own @$$ and pretend that they are the Second Coming. Better than awful isn’t GOOD, but it’s . . . better than awful (cf., Senile Joe, Kamal-toe the Ho, and Lyin’ Tampon Timmy).

            Unless you are a moronic, demented Leftist/fascist, you can recognized that there are bad options and even WORSE options, and choose between them, while still understanding that bad options are still bad.

            That you lack this ability says MUCH about you, but nothing about me.

            Y U B so stupid?

          • yea how does that work this gang didn’t just happen they have been building gradually you mean the tenants or property owner didn’t wonder where their rent money was or call police and if they knew all this was going on and they been watching but doing nothing what happened to the 145,000 Venezuelans that trump gave deportation protection to for 18 months on his 2nd to last day in office something don’t sound right about this the republican doing nothing sounds right but they never said anything till now don’t make sense .

      • hell in a hand basket. this is what gun control laws get you and sanctuary city policies as well. the people will need to arm themselves and drive these animals out and then drive Polis and his democRATS out too.

      • The Hells are a heartless business. They are more likely to negotiate a financial deal than have a conflict. Violence is bad business. Human trafficking, drug sales, are “good” business. I very much doubt the Hells will apply force to these gangs, but I hope I’m wrong.

    • Frankly, I’d be more concerned about going to a movie theater in Aurora, a football game at Columbine High or a political meet and greet in Tucson…

      • Yes you have communicated you are a retard that doesn’t understand probability, no need to repeat yourself.

      • I’d only worry about movie theaters that ban guns…
        The Aurora shooter passed up at least TWO theaters because they allowed armed patrons..

  2. Gee, why don’t they just buy the apartment? Seriously, one of my sons just sold his 700k home in Lakewood for 75 over list, all cash, no inspection… realtor “suggested” he accept the offer from the “Out of state investment concern”. Implied that it’s Mexican or Venezuelan money laundering, and you don’t want to be on their bad side – arson anyone? He’s taking the money and leaving Colorado.
    By the way, he bought the property four years ago for a little under 435k.

    • “Implied that it’s Mexican or Venezuelan money laundering“

      Either you don’t understand how money laundering works, or you are saying your son is involved in a criminal conspiracy to illegally launder funds.

      “he bought the property four years ago for a little under 435k“

      Colorado must have a really great economy, doubled your real estate investment in four years is excellent performance. Didn’t you say they have had a series of democrat governors, I guess that did the trick!

      • Honestly, are you that stupid? How does being intimidated into selling your home turn to a criminal conspiracy?

        • jwm,

          “Honestly, are you that stupid?”

          SERIOUSLY???? After MajorLiar’s execrable history of lies, deceit, propaganda, and gaslighting on this site????

          Yeah, he’s (hmm . . . he? Gee, I wouldn’t want to ‘presume his gender’, would I?) STOOPID (and/or a liar, and ALWAYS a propagandist and a gaslighter). When dealing with MajorLiar, the “are you stupid” question is superfluous.

      • Miner49er…

        Either you don’t understand the English language and know what a question mark is or you don’t understand context … well, actual its both in this case.

        You cherry picked part of a question he asked in his post, it wasn’t a statement of fact like you treated it to launch into another of your stupid comment orgasms.

        Were you not educated beyond third grade?

        Learn what context means moron.

      • Miner, I see your understanding of real estate transactions is right up there with your math skills, huh? ….once you list your property the buyer has all of the legal protections on their side and can sue both the seller and the realtor for a number of reasons if the sale gets squashed. Assuming a sale price of over $700,000, thats a lot of dirty money that could be laundered, isn’t it? Also, not seeing anything in the post about past governors, but yes, Polis is a Dem, and as indicated in the story is apparently lookikg the other way about this widespread problem in his state. Hmmm, I wonder if he’ll be coming into his own laundry problems.

      • I guess you forgot that you leftists are supposed to pretend to care about income inequality. I grew up in Colorado, gorgeous state and an absolute haven for any and all forms of outdoor recreation, but it’s turning into an exclusive playground for the rich. The insane spike in house values is awesome if you already have one, but if you’re a middle class person too young to have had the chance to buy when it was more affordable then you’re screwed

        • We’re being invaded by rich jackasses fleeing blue state taxes and policies who come here and drive up housing prices by paying way over asking price so they don’t have to pay capital gains on the profit from the house they sold. And voting for the same type of politicians who screwed their state over. To quote a friend:

          “You left there to come here. You’re a refugee, not a missionary.”

      • Our jackass of a governor had nothing to do with it. 4 years ago mortgage rates were on their way to the bottom. In 2021, you could get a 30 year mortgage at 2%. Houses were selling for $10-20k over asking the day they went on the market, often with no inspection. I bought my house at the beginning of 2021, and the value jumped 30% in a year. With inflation and the fed quadrupling interest rates, the market has slowed way down except for the “gentrified” areas, including parts of Lakewood.

        • I talked with a realtor acquaintance yesterday and mentioned the “Pb_fan59” posting. She said all cash offers are over 30% of sales and that after the 1st of next year, the identity of the buyers and source of funding will have to be reported to the fed, same as bank transactions precisely due to it being a PROVEN money laundering avenue. Also, that Co., at least the Denver area, is seen as a risky investment area for properties due to a number of factors , so sell, sell, sell.

  3. “Jurinsky announced that heavily armed men have seized control of the buildings, which are full of American citizens, carrying out violent robberies, shootings and assaults, causing a terrifying ordeal for residents who are now trapped with their families under horrifying conditions.”

    and instead of going after the actual criminals like this the ATF decided to send, basically, a ‘murder’ team to the home of a peaceful innocent man in Arkansas at zero-dark-thirty, who had actually, it turns out, comitted no crime at all …’cause the ATF said so.

    of ‘qualified immunity’ had not been included in this ‘murder’, the ATF agents who did this ‘murder’ would have been charged with a murder charge because their over bearing and improper action intentionally created the situation under which they justified their, in actuality under law, they shot and killed their victim. ya can’t claim ‘self defense’, like the ATF did here, under law if you created the situation under which you shot someone in supposedly ‘self defense’. if it wasn’t for qualified immunity these ATF government kill team thug criminals would have been charged with a murder charge.

    • The government doesn’t have the time to go after these foreign terrorists. Didn’t you see the latest DHS / DOJ ALERT? The greatest threat and enemy #1 is MVEs (Militant Violent Extremists). MVEs can easily be identified by their using terms like, “Patriot”, “Second Amendment”, “Prepper” and displaying “hate symbols, such as the Gadsden Flag”.

      If you are reading this, you are not the latest edition to the “Quiet Skies” list. You’re welcome.

      • yep… that mean old Gadsden flag… lol

        did ya see the DHS memo that just came out where the DHS basically green lighted federal law enforcement to shoot on sight anyone they basically wanted to for any reason? I think bongino has it in one of his videos.

    • Yes, because Trump told people not to vote for the bipartisan border bill that would have “controlled” illegal immigration (wink, nod). That’s what people really believe. I suggest that everyone talk to democrats in real life. Most really don’t understand that our open borders are intentional.

      Look at Kamala’s ads and speeches. She’s pretending like she wants to stop illegal immigration. You know. The thing that she did! She’s doing this after years of saying that they would welcome all people, and that no one is illegal. The first priority of the Puppet-Harris Admin was to end all of Trump’s immigration policies. They made it clear they would do that before they assumed office. It was their number one priority.

      That’s why I had a bet with Miner that we would have open borders. He was the one that suggested the bet. He “keeps up with the news.” Yet, he didn’t understand the plan?

    • Trump’s fault?

      Yes, yes it is.

      Why don’t we just deport the undocumented Venezuelans?

      “Trump blocks Venezuelans’ deportation in last political gift
      BY SCOTT SMITH AND JOSHUA GOODMAN
      Updated 10:58 PM EDT, January 19, 2021
      Share
      CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — With the clock winding down on his term, U.S. President Donald Trump shielded tens of thousands of Venezuelan migrants from deportation Tuesday night, rewarding Venezuelan exiles who have been among his most loyal supporters and who fear losing the same privileged access to the White House during the Biden administration.

      Trump signed an executive order deferring for 18 months the removal of more than 145,000 Venezuelans who were at risk of being sent back to their crisis-wracked homeland. He cited the “deteriorative condition” within Venezuela that constitutes a national security threat as the basis for his decision.“

      Blocking the deportation of 145,000 undocumented Venezuelan migrants, releasing 5000 Taliban terrorists back into Afghanistan, Donald Trump really knows how to keep America safe.

      Aren’t the actual facts of history just so fascinating.

      • So, for 4 years now the biden/harris team has allowed this to stand? And that’s Trumps fault?

        Two comments today and they paint you as pants on head stupid.

      • Damn, miner was joked about then decided to double down on his insane partisanship zealotry.
        Man could stub his toe on the way to the bathroom at 2:30am and scream “DAMN IT TRUMP STRIKES AGAIN”
        Always funny to see him rail one political side but be unable to equally criticize his side. After all, it’s obviously just big, evil, scary devils vs honest, good natured freedom fighters like a Disney movie and they are totally not both to blame for a myriad of awful rights infringements.
        But anyway, Republicans are evil fascists who will turn the country into a dictatorship and that’s why we need to remove the ability of the population to fight against them and take their firearms.
        S O L I D

        • “Always funny to see him rail one political side but be unable to equally criticize his side.”

          The folks posting on this forum are overwhelmingly pro-Trump, I’m just providing an element of balance to the discussion.

          “So, for 4 years now the biden/harris team has allowed”

          You should check your math, Trump signed the order in January 2021, extended the deadline by 18 months.

          That moved the deadline to July 2022, giving the Biden administration just 1.5 years to round up Trump’s 145,000 undocumented Venezuelan immigrants.

          Trump gave 145,000 undocumented Venezuelans the opportunity to disappear into the population.

          Apparently, some of Donald Trump’s most favored immigrants went to Colorado.

          “Trump Approves Deportation Protections for Venezuelans in U.S. Illegally
          The action comes under the Deferred Enforced Departure program that offers deportation protections and work permits to immigrants in the country without authorization
          By
          Michelle Hackman
          Updated Jan. 19, 2021 10:30 pm ET“

          • And still the biden/harris crime family has done nothing.

            And you are not providing balance here. You are the very essence of a troll.

            • Hey that’s offensive to us trolls we work hard to be offensive to overly emotional internet users. This poser is just a propagandist and the Temu version at that.

          • Just to be clear, you are for deporting illegal immigrants. Trump isn’t right wing enough for you, huh?

            You previously told us that people who have v-a-g-i-n-a-s* are women, and that secksual* orientation is a choice. None of that sounds very progressive.

            You don’t really believe in anything, other than winning. You’ll say anything in the moment to win the argument. You’re a chameleon, just like Kamala. Typical left winger.

          • “I’m providing an element to balance discussion.”
            Yeah, acting equally insane as those people is a great idea. They think Trump can do no wrong, so obviously the answer isn’t nuance and objective reasoning, it’s to just do the opposite and say “NO TRUMP NO DO ANYTHING RIGHT EVER”.
            The point is that if you can’t be objective enough to set aside bias long enough to see what’s happening in a realistic manner, then this entire “discussion” is nothing more than verbal dung flinging.
            I actually want to talk about guns on this GUN site so I guess I’m providing a balance too, whereas you are seemingly straight anti and is like coming into a crotcheting page to lecture to all the people doing so that yarn should be banned for it’s choking hazard.

          • Oh, you LYING sack of SHITE!!!!!! Senile Joe respected exactly ZERO of Trump’s OTHER executive orders, so . . . why this one???? Why didn’t he just issue a superseding Executive Order rescinding the extension (no, you don’t want to get into that, because it implicates the whole issue of ALL recent presidents (oh, and FDR, too) abusing executive power with “executive orders”.

            Biden left it in place because he WANTED immigration from Venezuela (and Nicaragua, and Cuba, and Colombia, and El Salvador, and . . . need I go on???). Biden (and Kamal-toe the Ho, since she’s “proud of serving” with Senile Joe, and all the “good things” he’s done) had AMPLE opportunity to reverse this policy, if they disagreed with it.

            They reversed literally EVERY other Trump EO regarding the border, on “day one” . . . but left this one in place. ‘Splain that one to me, Loosey.

            And Senile Joe had NO PROBLEM ignoring (i) the plain language of federal law in re: immigration, (ii) specific federal court rulings (from District Court through and including SCOTUS) regarding his taxpayer-funded “student debt relief” plan, and (iii) ignored EXPRESS conditions in the joint forces agreement for the Afghanistan withdrawal, because he wanted to GTFO (which we should have, YEARS before . . . when Senile Joe, in the Senate, was SUPPORTING it (before he was against it again).

            MajorLiar, paint your lies, propaganda, and gaslighting any color you want, they are still baby-sh*t green, and the smell gives them away. Trump was stupid to issue that order . . . so what does that make Senile Joe for continuing it??? Stupid, or cynical, or a liar? Or, (and here’s a thought) maybe ALL THREE?

            As for you, I am now convinced (to the point of near-unpersuasibility), that you are BOTH a lying liar who lies (a knowing lying propagandist), AND a brainless idiot (your lies are so transparent that they do not reflect well on your alleged intellect). So, both things are possible (and in your case, clearly true).

          • Hey assminer, Biden could have nullified any and all of Trump’s Executive Orders by a new EO on the very day of his inauguration had he wanted to, but he DIDN’T, knowing that it – like all presidential EOs, are subject to judicial review. Now take off your blue tinted glasses and join the rest of here in Reality if you want to play – – -but do try to stay on topic.

      • stop trying to spin it Miner49er. these criminal terrorists came across the intentionally open and insure border Biden an border czar created, and they knew it too because Venezuelan government told them they were dumping all these, thousands of such criminals out of their prisons, and sending them to the border to cross. that’s not Trumps fault. not only that but the DHS has pointed out that fully armed terrorists groups are now in the US and planning attacks and they all came across Bidens and border czar Harris intentionally insecure and open border.

        this is a big difference from Trump wanting some vetted actual immigrants to stay in the country.

        • and again… Thanks to Joe Biden and Border Czar Comrade Kamala, and Comrade Miner49er and the other the rest of their Comrade radical extremists left wing terrorist and criminals facilitators and sympathizes including those comrades who claim to be democrat congress members….

          Venezuelan criminal terrorist posing as delivery people. Why Gun Owners NEED To Watch Out For This Delivery Driver Scheme.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc-MX1zbzDY

            • “some how Trumps fault when he wasn’t even in office“

              That’s all part of the conservative plan, trumps action on the Venezuelans moved the deadline 1.5 years into Bidens administration, Trump just kicked the can down the road.

              That’s the same for the Afghanistan withdrawal, Trump did not do the hard work of actually pulling the troops out, he just negotiated with the terrorists for a deadline that was two years into the next presidency, once more avoiding the messy business of actually unassing the AO.

              Same for the middle class tax cuts, they expire in 2025. Donald Trump made the tax cuts for the wealthy one percent permanent, but put a sunset clause in the middle class tax cuts so they would disappear during the next president’s term.

              “Parts of the massive Trump tax cuts are expiring, providing an opportunity to change course
              July 11, 2024
              By: OCPP

              Next year, 2025, is setting up to be a pivotal year when it comes to how our nation raises the money needed to pay for public services — things like health, housing, the nation’s safety net, and more.

              The reason 2025 will be so important dates back to 2017. That year, Congress enacted the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, better known as the Trump tax cuts. This tax package contained massive changes to our tax system that mostly amounted to huge tax cuts for the rich and corporations. For procedural reasons, as well as to mask the true costs of these massive tax cuts, Congress made some parts of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act temporary. It gave them an expiration date. And that expiration date is 2025.“

              • “That’s all part of the conservative plan, trumps action on the Venezuelans moved the deadline 1.5 years into Bidens administration, Trump just kicked the can down the road.”

                If your claim wasn’t such a lie I’d be laughing my ass off at how completely stupid you are.

                Seriously, get some help for that mental illness TDS ya got Miner49er.

              • “If your claim wasn’t such a lie”

                You are so nonspecific, are you saying that my claim Donald Trump blocked the deportation of 145,000 illegal Venezuelan immigrants is a lie?

                PRESIDENTIAL MEMORANDA

                Memorandum on Deferred Enforced Departure for Certain Venezuelans
                FOREIGN POLICY
                Issued on: January 19, 2021
                ALL NEWS
                MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE
                THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY
                SUBJECT: Deferred Enforced Departure for Certain Venezuelans

                “Pursuant to my constitutional authority to conduct the foreign relations of the United States, I have determined that it is in the foreign policy interest of the United States to defer the removal of any national of Venezuela, or alien without nationality who last habitually resided in Venezuela, subject to the conditions and exceptions provided below.

                Accordingly, I hereby direct you to take appropriate measures to defer for 18 months the removal of any national of Venezuela, or alien without nationality who last habitually resided in Venezuela, who is present in the United States as of January 20, 2021“

                Hell, Donald Trump even promised them jobs:

                “I further direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to take appropriate measures to authorize employment for aliens whose removal has been deferred, as provided by this memorandum, for the duration of such deferral.

                The Secretary of Homeland Security is authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.

                DONALD J. TRUMP“

                I know it burns your ass, but the facts of history are just so inconvenient for the conservatives.

              • So, MajorLiar,

                What, EXACTLY, is the nature of that action by Trump?? Why, mirabile dictu, it’s an EXECUTIVE ORDER!!!

                Q: How many OTHER Executive Orders issued by Trump, respecting the border and immigration, did Senile Joe continue to comply with??

                Interested to hear the LIES you will spin to ‘splain this one, Loosey.

                Trump was stupid to issue the order, what does that make Biden for allowing this ONE EO of Trump’s to continue (while EXPRESSLY rejecting all the others)?????

                Seriously, go Roger yourself up the bonus hole with a barb-wire wrapped Louisville Slugger, lubricated with habanero juice and battery acid.

              • Miner49er;

                You posted this

                “You are so nonspecific, are you saying that my claim Donald Trump blocked the deportation of 145,000 illegal Venezuelan immigrants is a lie?”

                I have only posted a few times here, but I’ve been reading this exchange and I feel I can tell you this and you still will not see it.

                Yes, Booger is saying its a lie, but not for the reasons you think. He wasn’t nonspecific, you’re just blinded to it.

                Simply because you can post the text of a Trump executive order or a link or talk up the Trump executive order does not make it true in context with the subject matter of Biden’s administration creating an insecure border on purpose. You want to change the subject to Trump and away from Biden and Harris by use of a left wing trick.

                The lie he is talking about is your use of a left-wing trick called “false parity” used to shift blame from the obvious context cause of the problem (here it is Biden’s intentionally insecure border) to another person or cause (in your case you use Trump).

                Trumps actions were no where near or involved with the problem created by the Biden and Harris insecure border that has allowed millions to enter and remain in the country illegally including these criminal gangs and middle east terrorist groups. Yet you invoke a false parity with Trumps separate and unconnected act to causing the Biden insecure border problem. Its a false parity and no matter what you post that may be factual with posting Trumps executive order your use of it in a false parity makes your comments a lie. He is correct, you lied. Plus, he keeps giving you the answer in his hinting to you about understanding context for which you seem to be blind.

                I see him deliberately trying to change his grammatical construction to dodge in and out of your blind spots very successfully. I’m not sure what Boogers background is but this is a college level debate team tactic so you seem a little outclassed judging from your responses.

                They are blind spots for you because you ignore context, and seem blind to it. And hes making you look like a fool by exposing your lie without coming right out and telling you why its a lie and you don’t see why because you are blinded to it.

                Booger was also correct in another post. You need to get some counseling for what is called “Trump Derangement Syndrome” or what ever the mental health term for that is.

              • Nope, your wall of text will not change the actual situation.

                The original subject is the danger posed by Venezuelan gangs, made up of illegal Venezuelan immigrants.

                I pointed out, with an actual reference to his Presidential Memorandum (not EO), how Donald Trump had intentionally deferred the removal of over 145,000 illegal Venezuelan immigrants on his last day in office, giving them 18 months to melt away into the interior of the United States.

                Donald Trump even guaranteed them jobs:

                “I further direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to take appropriate measures to authorize employment for aliens whose removal has been deferred, as provided by this memorandum, for the duration of such deferral.

                The Secretary of Homeland Security is authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.

                DONALD J. TRUMP“

                Yes, I think Biden should have rescinded that presidential memorandum, the problem is Donald Trump left so much shit fucked up that it’s impossible to rectify every one of his errors immediately.

                That’s a prime technique of conservative Republicans, just like George Bush’s economic collapse of 2007–2008 that Obama had to fix, the Republicans run the truck in the ditch and then stand around saying the Democrats aren’t getting the truck out of the ditch fast enough.

                And you think I post too much about Donald Trump, you may have noticed that traitorous bastard is running for President of the United States again so all patriotic citizens should be concerned and pay more attention to exactly what Donald Trump does and says.

              • “The original subject is the danger posed by Venezuelan gangs, made up of illegal Venezuelan immigrants.”

                I wish he would not have told you about the false parity lie you have been telling. It was fun to watch you squirm trying to maintain it.

                But he was right, you still don’t see it even after he basically held you by the hand and guided you through it. And now you do it again with trying to twist it back around with “Venezuelan gangs, made up of illegal Venezuelan immigrants.” to create an equivalency to try to maintain your other false parity lie of your TDS “TRUMPPPPPP!” rant.

                Trump had nothing to do with the Venezuelan gangs coming across the Biden and Harris intentionally created insecure and open border no matter what executive order he signed. And even if those Trump Venezuelans were so bad, never mind that Harris voiced support for the idea of Trump signing that executive order when he did, if those immigrants were so bad then why hasn’t Biden and Harris done anything about them? I mean, Biden with a stroke of a pen can rescind Trumps order and deport those Trump Venezuelans, and also with the stroke of a pen order these Venezuelan gangs to be rounded up and deported but he hasn’t – they remain ’cause Biden and Harris, not Trump.

                But oh no, according to you Biden has not done anything about that order because according to you Trump had so much messed up. Yet the very order, a single order, Trump signed and was supported by Harris, a single order, for some reason Biden doesn’t rescind, according to you, ’cause “TRUMPPPPP!” when his whole time in office has been about getting rid of everything Trump did. And hear again you create yet another lie by trying preemptively to cover yet another of the many failures in your rant false parity lie.

                Even Harris herself has claimed responsibility for such criminality coming across the insecure border she and Biden created. She said in interview that she owned the border failure that allowed such an invasion. But don’t worry as she also said, basically, ‘as soon as I’m elected I’ll fix it’ ya know kinda completely ignoring she is already elected as the vice tryrant and is the border czar with the power to fix it now and last year and the year before that.

                Those Venezuelan gangs came across the border because of Biden and Harris intentionally creating an insecure and open border, and that was the context and you even said it yourself now in your attempt to twist it back around to justify your TDS rant of a lie. Yet you still for some reason fail to see the context yet you are tripping all over it in your haste to save your TDA rant and continue.

                He was right, you do not see the lie you are telling, the false parity.

                And it became the context when you hijacked the thread to take it off course because someone said this wasn’t Trumps fault and they were 100% correct. To which you replied it was Trumps fault because he signed an executive order to protect actual non-criminal Venezuelan immigrants. Trump’s order has absolutely zero to do with Biden and Harris intentionally creating an insecure and open border through which these Venezuelan gangs illegally entered the country.

                You used a false parity to hijack the thread to venture off into another of your mental illness TDS rants, completely ignoring still the context to continue your false parity lie and a TDS rant. You created in hijacking the thread a false parity that created your lie.

                You are a liar.

                Learn what context means moron.

              • Void, the difference is the poster above built his wall of text by pontificating upon my education and abilities.

                My post contains the actual text of Donald Trump’s Presidential Memorandum granting all the illegal Venezuelan immigrants who had entered the United States during his four years an additional 1.5 years to effectively infiltrate the entire United States.

                Some people like to run with their own opinion, I tend to focus on the facts.

              • “…pontificating upon my education and abilities.”

                Seriously? That’s what you got from that Miner49er, that he was “pontificating upon” your education and abilities.

                You are a complete idiot. He was very nicely calling you a liar and idiot with no education and abilities.

                As he so truly pointed out:

                “Simply because you can post the text of a Trump executive order or a link or talk up the Trump executive order does not make it true in context with the subject matter of Biden’s administration creating an insecure border on purpose. You want to change the subject to Trump and away from Biden and Harris by use of a left wing trick.

                The lie he is talking about is your use of a left-wing trick called “false parity” used to shift blame from the obvious context cause of the problem (here it is Biden’s intentionally insecure border) to another person or cause (in your case you use Trump).”

                Yet here you are again trying the same trick to lie once again (I didn’t quote your whole post in this post). But this time you justify it with “I tend to focus on the facts.”

                OK, here are some “facts” you blatantly ignore in favor of a false parity:

                In 2021 Biden tasked Harris with what is dubbed by others as the ‘border czar’ role. The left wing have spun it to say “tasked Vice President Kamala Harris with working alongside officials in Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras to address the issues driving people to leave those countries and come to the United States.”. Yet, In Biden’s own words in an announcement during interview he said that she was also tasked with handling ‘illegal immigration’. The left-winger so called ‘fact checkers’ tend to leave the “tasked with handling ‘illegal immigration'” part out. Although not tasked directly with ‘border security’ under her handling of ‘illegal immigration’ more than 10 million illegal crossings have happened and (as of January 2024 according to testimony) 85% (see below) make it into the country.

                In January 2024 Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas testified that since 2022 (ya know while Biden was in office and Trump wasn’t) 85% of migrants crossing illegally are making it into the country due to lax/ineffective border enforcement at the insistence of the Biden administration while waiting to be able to lift Title 42.

                In May 2023, Biden lifted title 42. In doing that it was a re-reinstatement of decades-old immigration laws that allowed illegally crossing (if caught) and legally crossing immigrants to stay in the country while their cases make their way through immigration court. Less than 10% of those who were caught illegally entering show up for their hearings, less than 8% were ‘deported’ by then. In July 2024 Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas issued directives that basically said ‘if they do not report for their court dates or they get away, don’t bother to find them.” and later in house hearings he testified this was his directive at the insistence of the Biden administration. In other words, by Biden policy Biden created an ‘asylum law’ system that basically said “Sure, come in, we effectively have an insecure and open border and no one is going to come looking for you.”

                In May 2023 NGO’s (collectively, some of them) bragged they were providing support for more than 8 million illegals in the country that entered in the “last three months”. Wait! This means that in (approximately) February 2023 these illegals crossed and were still in the country… while Harris was the ‘border czar’ tasked with handling ‘illegal immigration’, while Biden was in office, and after Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas testified that since 2022 (ya know while Biden was in office and Trump wasn’t) 85% of migrants crossing illegally are making it into the country due to lax/ineffective border enforcement at the insistence of the Biden administration while waiting to be able to lift Title 42.

                fact: Biden-Harris intentionally created an insecure and open border. You can spin it anyway you want trying to blame it on Trump because he wrote an executive order to allow ~145,000 Venezuelan illegal immigrants, granting amnesty to stay in the country to apply for citizenship (because the process can take a long time) (which Kamala Harris, at the time, said she approved of the executive order but said more needed to be done to simply grant amnesty to anyone who illegally entered).

                100% Fact: These Venezuelan gangs did for a fact cross the border illegally due to the Biden-Harris policy intentionally creating an insecure and open border. Venezuela even told Biden they were coming, they basically said they had emptied their prisons of these and sent them to the insecure and open border created by Biden-Harris. They are not here, as you falsely claim by use of the false parity trick because Trump signed an EO. Trump signing an order granting amnesty to ~145,000 Venezuelan illegal immigrants so they can go through the citizenship process has absolutely zero to do with the Venezuelan gangs and middle east terrorist groups that have entered our country illegally due to the Biden-Harris intentionally insecure and open border.

                You lied through your false parity, plain and simple.

                (My other post has not yet appeared, it went to moderation. So I’ll reply with this one for now.)

              • “Yet, In Biden’s own words in an announcement during interview he said that she was also tasked with handling ‘illegal immigration’. The left-winger so called ‘fact checkers’ tend to leave the “tasked with handling ‘illegal immigration’” part out.”

                There’s your claim.

                So I Googled the phrase you claim Biden said in quotation marks (“tasked with handling ‘illegal immigration”) and it returned only one hit, your comment on TTAG.

                Here’s what President Biden actually said from the official record:

                MARCH 24, 2021
                Remarks by President Biden and Vice President Harris in a Meeting on Immigration
                HOME
                BRIEFING ROOM
                SPEECHES AND REMARKS

                “In addition to that, there’s about five other major things she’s handling, but I’ve asked her, the VP, today — because she’s the most qualified person to do it — to lead our efforts with Mexico and the Northern Triangle and the countries that help — are going to need help in stemming the movement of so many folks, stemming the migration to our southern border.

                And, you know, back when I was Vice President, I got a similar assignment, but one of the things we did was we made sure that we got a bipartisan agreement with Democrats and Republicans to provide over $700 million to the countries in the Northern Triangle to determine the best way to keep people from coming is keep them from wanting to leave.

                And so, this increase has been consequential, but the Vice President has agreed — among the multiple other things that I have her leading — and I appreciate it — agreed to lead our diplomatic effort and work with those nations to accept re- — the returnees, and enhance migration enforcement at their borders — at their borders.

                We’re already talking with Mexico about that; she’s already done that. We’re going to be dealing with a full team now that we have to be able to deal with the problem here at home, but also to deal with it now in terms of in country.”

                It is un-American to use lies and misinformation to advance your political agenda, thankfully we have access to the official record proving the truth of the matter.

              • COOL STORY, BRO!!

                Now Google “biden border czar” (since it’s Leftist/fascist Google, you’ll have to scroll down to page two or three to get to a REAL story).

                You LYING @$$wipe (and, YES, I am impugning your education, your intelligence, your honesty, AND your integrity – as if you actually HAD any of the foregoing) – BIDEN, HIMSELF, referred to Kamal-toe the Ho as his “Border Czar, so just go eat the ENTIRE bag o’ dicks, your prevaricating piece of shite!!

            • Miner, a ” Presidential Memorandum “… seriously? It carries even less force of law, isn’t even posted to the Federal Register, and can be rescinded by Executive Orders, but not the other way around. You already knew all of that , but it can be easily verified by Wikipedia or The idiot’s Guide to Basic Government.
              Perhaps you’d also like to pick up a copy of The Idiot’s Guide to Trump Derangement Syndrome and stop wasting time and electronic ink.

    • Grampa Miner, I’m getting sleepy – can you tell me a bedtime fairytale? Ooh, ooh, how about the one where the ogre got the townspeople all up in arms and stormed the castle armed with nothing but dead fish, and the big dummy fairy godmother let down the drawbridge. Kinya, kinya, kinya…. that one’s one of my favorites.

  4. “The Governor has already let the Mayor know that the State is ready to support the local police department with assistance from state troopers and the Colorado Bureau of Investigation if needed,” 

    ready to support, but only if needed when its obvious its needed… really? instead he says publicly it’s ‘imaginary’.

    I tend to think the ‘support’ is imaginary.

    • The Knob gobbler is saying the takeovers are not real. Bitch has 24/7 security. See how that works? Fuck You Pole Smoker you fucking POS!

      • Until this stuff affects the politicians they will not change their opinions and even when it does many will still not change.

    • “The Governor has already let the Mayor know that the State is ready to support the local police… “

      So the Democrat governor is ready to help the Republican mayor with policing resources if needed. That sounds reasonable.

      “ready to support, but only if needed when its obvious its needed… really?”

      What? So you want the Governor to send state police or national guard into Aurora without an invitation from the mayor or chief of police?

      Let me get this straight, you want a democrat governor to send the state police forces or National Guard into the Republican mayor’s city without his express invitation?

      I am sure y’all would pitch a bitch if that happened.

      This is wild, I thought conservatives were all about local control…

      • Glad you brought that up, because two Dem mayors requested state police or national guard assistance from their Dem Governor, and the governor responded by warming one of his digits rectally for a couple of days while dreaming up excuses for his non-response.
        Who could this POS governor be ?…. why it’s Harris’s VP nominee Tampon Tim Walz.

  5. “A Homeland Security memo warned that Tren de Aragua’s leadership recently gave a “green light” for members to shoot and attack law enforcement officers across the U.S,…”

    ‘Prosecute them’, hell, they need citizens to step up and exterminate them… 🙁

    • According to DHS U.S. law enforcement and immigration officials have launched more than 100 investigations of crimes tied to suspected members of a violent Venezuelan gang, including sex trafficking in Louisiana and the shooting of two New York City police officers.

      According to DHS, this Venezuelan gang is all over the country.

      100% of those known entered the country illegally due to Biden-Harris intentionally open and insecure border. Some were encountered, but due to the way the Biden-Harris immigration invasion policy works and with the help of so-called “sanctuary” cities/states democrat politicians and their NGO’s and other left-wing organizations behind the scenes (e.g. some anti-gun orgs for example) and left-wing wealthy people ‘donors’ even those gang members (as well as other illegal entry people) who entered illegally and caught were given a ‘legal proceeding’ opportunity and released with hearing date they did not show for and simply vanished into the country.

      In Aurora, Colorado although one apartment complex is implied to be involved in this article its actually a bigger problem. The mayor has stated several apartment complexes in the area are affected. According to ‘The Gazette’ > gazette. … com/government/venezuelan-gang-tren-de-aragua-used-border-chaos-to-infiltrate-u-s/article_8836082e-66ef-11ef-8474-2becb71b044b. … ht.ml (link malformed on purpose so as to hopefully not go into moderation):

      “Aurora Mayor Mike Coffman acknowledged on Thursday that a Venezuelan gang that is likely Tren de Aragua has taken control of several apartment complexes in the northern part of the city in what he called ‘a nightmare situation.’

      He also admitted that the city ‘lost control’ of the gang infiltration ‘and we’re working aggressively to get it back. ”

      Its also not just the apartment complexes, like it is where ever they are there is also street level activity with drugs and robbery and human trafficking and other focused criminal activity such as posing as common carrier (e.g. Amazon, UPS, FED EX) delivery drivers. This particular gang specializes in rape and murder.

      • “100% of those known entered the country illegally due to Biden-Harris“

        Biden was not president when Donald Trump signed the executive order allowing 145,000 Venezuelans to stay in the country illegally.

        Those Venezuelans entered the country illegally during the Trump administration:

        “Trump Approves Deportation Protections for Venezuelans in U.S. Illegally
        The action comes under the Deferred Enforced Departure program that offers deportation protections and work permits to immigrants in the country without authorization
        By
        Michelle Hackman
        Updated Jan. 19, 2021 10:30 pm ET“

        • Once agaiun your cherry picking out of context to promote a lie.

          What I posted was this: “100% of those known entered the country illegally due to Biden-Harris intentionally open and insecure border.”

          Biden was for a fact president when that happened. Even if it were Trump that did something as you claimed in your overall lie, Biden was still president when it happened and had the responsibility to stop it.

          This gang AND ALL THE REST is squarely the fault of Biden and Border Czar Harris, period.

          Fact: 100% of those known entered the country illegally due to Biden-Harris intentionally open and insecure border. Some were encountered, but due to the way the Biden-Harris immigration invasion policy works and with the help of so-called “sanctuary” cities/states democrat politicians and their NGO’s and other left-wing organizations behind the scenes (e.g. some anti-gun orgs for example) and left-wing wealthy people ‘donors’ even those gang members (as well as other illegal entry people) who entered illegally and caught were given a ‘legal proceeding’ opportunity and released with hearing date they did not show for and simply vanished into the country.

          And a few of the democrat congresswomen even applauded it, and said they were glad Biden did it in between their supporting Hamas.

          • clarification for : “…Biden was still president when it happened and had the responsibility to stop it.”

            meaning when the gangs and the millions of others came in, including the middle eastern terrorist groups that sneaked in illegally fully equipped over a Biden-Harris intentionally insecure and open border.

            Trump saying 145,000 actual non-criminal immigrants could stay so they would have time to apply for citizenship is no where near what you claim.

            You lied again.

            • Miner49er,

              You need to have your butt dragged out back and kicked until you stop breathing, then necessitated and it done all over again for your support of this terrorist gang that for a 100% fact did illegally enter the country under the Biden-Harris intentionally insecure open border plan. Heck, even Venezuela warned Biden they were going to empty their prisons and send them to the border, he knew they were coming you moron and the intentionally insecure and open border that basically said ‘come on in, we left wingers love rapist and murderers and terrorist, so sure come on in.”

              • “You need to have your butt dragged out back and kicked until you stop breathing“

                Publicly advocating for the violent death of your political opponents.

                It’s you ‘conservatives’ who are dividing America with your violent rhetoric, there’s no question it was an actual insurrection, a failed attempt to overthrow our government by people just like you.

                Do you understand now why reasonable citizens think folks like you should never have access to lethal weapons?

              • “Do you understand now why reasonable citizens think folks like you should never have access to lethal weapons?”

                I understand why people like you who claim to be “reasonable citizens’ think folks like us should not have access to lethal weapons. Its because the violent radical extremist left-wing threat you are always thinks no one should be able to stop them.

                “there’s no question it was an actual insurrection, a failed attempt to overthrow our government by people just like you.”

                How odd since it wasn’t an ‘insurrection’ in other than the left-wing mindset, which makes it not “an actual insurrection”. I wasn’t even there, you don’t know anyone like me. There ya go with your false parity lie again.

              • (for your other post in which you continued to spread your false parity lie…)

                “…pontificating upon my education and abilities.”

                Seriously? That’s what you got from that Miner49er, that he was “pontificating upon” your education and abilities.

                You are a complete idiot. He was very nicely calling you a liar and idiot with no education and abilities. (and obviously he sees your other blind spots too, judging from your blissfully ignorant reply)

                As he so truly pointed out:

                “Simply because you can post the text of a Trump executive order or a link or talk up the Trump executive order does not make it true in context with the subject matter of Biden’s administration creating an insecure border on purpose. You want to change the subject to Trump and away from Biden and Harris by use of a left wing trick.

                The lie he is talking about is your use of a left-wing trick called “false parity” used to shift blame from the obvious context cause of the problem (here it is Biden’s intentionally insecure border) to another person or cause (in your case you use Trump).”

                Yet here you are again trying the same trick to lie once again (I didn’t quote your whole post in this post). But this time you justify it with “I tend to focus on the facts.”

                OK, here are some “facts” you blatantly ignore in favor of a false parity:

                In 2021 Biden tasked Harris with what is dubbed by others as the ‘border czar’ role. The left wing have spun it to say “tasked Vice President Kamala Harris with working alongside officials in Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras to address the issues driving people to leave those countries and come to the United States.”. Yet, In Biden’s own words in an announcement during interview he said that she was also tasked with handling ‘illegal immigration’. The left-winger so called ‘fact checkers’ tend to leave the “tasked with handling ‘illegal immigration’” part out. Although not tasked directly with ‘border security’ under her handling of ‘illegal immigration’ more than 10 million illegal crossings have happened and (as of January 2024 according to testimony) 85% (see below) make it into the country.

                In January 2024 Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas testified that since 2022 (ya know while Biden was in office and Trump wasn’t) 85% of migrants crossing illegally are making it into the country due to lax/ineffective border enforcement at the insistence of the Biden administration while waiting to be able to lift Title 42.

                In May 2023, Biden lifted title 42. In doing that it was a re-reinstatement of decades-old immigration laws that allowed illegally crossing (if caught) and legally crossing immigrants to stay in the country while their cases make their way through immigration court. Less than 10% of those who were caught illegally entering show up for their hearings, less than 8% were ‘deported’ by then. In July 2024 Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas issued directives that basically said ‘if they do not report for their court dates or they get away, don’t bother to find them.” and later in house hearings he testified this was his directive at the insistence of the Biden administration. In other words, by Biden policy Biden created an ‘asylum law’ system that basically said “Sure, come in, we effectively have an insecure and open border and no one is going to come looking for you.”

                In May 2023 NGO’s (collectively, some of them) bragged they were providing support for more than 8 million illegals in the country that entered in the “last three months”. Wait! This means that in (approximately) February 2023 these illegals crossed and were still in the country… while Harris was the ‘border czar’ tasked with handling ‘illegal immigration’, while Biden was in office, and after Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas testified that since 2022 (ya know while Biden was in office and Trump wasn’t) 85% of migrants crossing illegally are making it into the country due to lax/ineffective border enforcement at the insistence of the Biden administration while waiting to be able to lift Title 42.

                fact: Biden-Harris intentionally created an insecure and open border. You can spin it anyway you want trying to blame it on Trump because he wrote an executive order to allow ~145,000 Venezuelan illegal immigrants, granting amnesty to stay in the country to apply for citizenship (because the process can take a long time) (which Kamala Harris, at the time, said she approved of the executive order but said more needed to be done to simply grant amnesty to anyone who illegally entered).

                100% Fact: These Venezuelan gangs did for a fact cross the border illegally due to the Biden-Harris policy intentionally creating an insecure and open border. Venezuela even told Biden they were coming, they basically said they had emptied their prisons of these and sent them to the insecure and open border created by Biden-Harris. They are not here, as you falsely claim by use of the false parity trick because Trump signed an EO. Trump signing an order granting amnesty to ~145,000 Venezuelan illegal immigrants so they can go through the citizenship process has absolutely zero to do with the Venezuelan gangs and middle east terrorist groups that have entered our country illegally due to the Biden-Harris intentionally insecure and open border.

                You lied through your false parity, plain and simple.

                (My other post has not yet appeared, it went to moderation. So I’ll reply with this one for now.)

            • And heck, after intensive grilling and being shown the documentation even Alejandro Mayorkas, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, broke down and admitted under oath in house hearings he was aware that these gang terrorist and middle east terrorist groups were entering the country illegally AFTER Biden-Harris put in place their border policy that allowed this.

            • and now once again, the American people have to endure the death and carnage from crime that Miner49er and bunches of other radical extremist left-wing liars like Biden and Harris try to spin away.

              “Oh no, its imaginary.”

              “Oh no, criminals aren’t killing people, its guns.

              “Oh no, this is Trumps fault even though he wasn’t in office”

              As you so gladly show your support of these criminals and terrorists.

            • So, MajorLiar, since Senile Joe OBVIOUSLY did not consider any OTHER Trump EOs binding on him (which they AREN’T!!), why was he obligated to ‘respect’ THIS ONE???? Enquiring minds want to know (you obviously lacking either the “enquiring’ OR the “mind”).

          • “your (you’re) cherry picking out of context to promote a lie“

            Are you saying that my claim Donald Trump blocked the deportation of 145,000 illegal Venezuelan immigrants is a lie?

            Donald Trump as president specifically blocked the deportation of any Venezuelan or person of any nationality who head resided in Venezuela, he owns the Venezuelan gang activity:

            “defer the removal of any national of Venezuela, or alien without nationality who last habitually resided in Venezuela“

            It’s a matter of public record, you can claim it’s a lie but you’re denying reality:

            PRESIDENTIAL MEMORANDA

            Memorandum on Deferred Enforced Departure for Certain Venezuelans
            FOREIGN POLICY
            Issued on: January 19, 2021
            ALL NEWS
            MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE
            THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY
            SUBJECT: Deferred Enforced Departure for Certain Venezuelans

            “Pursuant to my constitutional authority to conduct the foreign relations of the United States, I have determined that it is in the foreign policy interest of the United States to defer the removal of any national of Venezuela, or alien without nationality who last habitually resided in Venezuela, subject to the conditions and exceptions provided below.

            Accordingly, I hereby direct you to take appropriate measures to defer for 18 months the removal of any national of Venezuela, or alien without nationality who last habitually resided in Venezuela, who is present in the United States as of January 20, 2021“

            Hell, Donald Trump even promised them jobs:

            “I further direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to take appropriate measures to authorize employment for aliens whose removal has been deferred, as provided by this memorandum, for the duration of such deferral.

            The Secretary of Homeland Security is authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.

            DONALD J. TRUMP“

            Donald Trump intentionally gave every illegal Venezuelan immigrants a year and a half to disappear into the United States, these Venezuelan gangs are his responsibility.

            Your continued intentional blindness to the actions of Donald Trump are just so fascinating.

            • So, MajorLiar, since Senile Joe OBVIOUSLY did not consider any OTHER Trump EOs binding on him (which they AREN’T!!), why was he obligated to ‘respect’ THIS ONE???? Enquiring minds want to know (you obviously lacking either the “enquiring’ OR the “mind”).

  6. The Mayor of Denver as well as the Governor of Colorado are eager to assist, but only to persecute any Americans who are assaulted by these vermin for using deadly force to defend themselves.

    This will only get worse until such time as actual American citizens start lynching politicians and subjecting judges to good old fashioned public stonings.

  7. If I was at Aurora Apt 301 Whatever, there would be 7 dead cocksucking gang bangers and I would be the one “Perp Walked’ in front of the media. So be it. I am at the age that I won’t put up with this shit. Also I am 17 miles from Aurora.

    • This is the America leftists want. A vote for a Democrat is a vote for lies and incompetence in equal measure.

    • They are the relatively tiny tip of a very large spear…

      How long till they collect the rent? I bet they already are…

    • Cloudbuster,

      I came to post the same sentiment. These guys are armed enemy combatants. Our nation–government and citizens alike–should treat them as such.

  8. All evil needs to be successful is for good people to do nothing to stop it. You deserve what you allow. Either in the voting booth or on the street.

  9. All criminals are not Leftists, but all Leftists are criminals. Illegal immigration is a racket that harvests huge revenues before the invaders even cross the border. Is it surprising that the Left supports and enables the destabilizing racket? Do you think there is no quid pro quo?

    It is high time to hold the criminals who participate by giving the product sanctuary legally accountable.

  10. They’re just forcibly evicting the tenants and garrisoning the apartment buildings Americans don’t want to.

    There must be something else going on because a serious city in a serious state in a serious country would have responded seriously. It’s almost as if nobody called 911 to say there are armed men storming the complex or banging on the door. Almost as if anyone who could have, would have or should have done something decided not to.

    • They are collecting rent, stealing, dealing dope, sex, protection, and more, I do not doubt. Just a few of the knock-on rackets that follow the protected racket that is illegal immigration.

      • Amen!
        This is why the tenants as well as the landlord should be shooting, shoveling and shutting up.

        A half dozen loads of 00 buckshot fired through the door would have been highly educational.

    • Yep, local reporting often has the ground truth the sensationalized right wing propaganda outlets conceal from their viewers.

      From your linked article:

      “the owners of an apartment beset with crime in Aurora, are using the gang as a scapegoat for the unsanitary, unsafe and unhealthy conditions of their apartments that were condemned by the city this month.“

      • typical left wing slant lie there Miner49er. Expected nothing less from you.

        Even the video for the article proves it a lie. Even the left-wing mayor of the city shows it for a lie.

        The “unsanitary, unsafe and unhealthy conditions” were created by the violent gang. They wrecked it so badly the city has to condemn it. Its always “unsafe and unhealthy conditions” if a violent gang with specialties in rape and murder are threatening and shooting at the people living there.

        • clarification for : “Even the video for the article proves it a lie.”

          meaning the various videos that are available that support the article.

      • Orwell, 1984.
        Don’t believe what you see with your own eyes.

        We will tell you what to think, say and see..
        (Obviously paraphrased, but you get the idea..)

    • Standard playbook. They’ll deny until they can’t.

      Then they’ll blame the fact that Aurora has an R mayor and city council.

  11. And people wonder why I hate libertarians so much. Well, here is just one reason.

    They are comfortable with criminals coming across open american borders. They don’t believe in any screening process, when it comes to immigration. And it’s doesn’t matter if the criminals are child rapists, murderer’s, robbers, or identification thieves.

    Libertarians are just like Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Both are scum bags who support open borders.

    • 99.999999% HA isn’t going to do anything in Aurora.

      They have a nomad club north of Aurora, I’m friends with some of those guys.

      Aurora is Sons of Silence territory and HA has a truce with SoS in this part of Colorado. They’re not going to go heavy into Aurora unless SoS basically asks them to and the only way that happens is if the guys from Tren screwed with, and probably seriously harmed, someone’s family, old lady or a member.

      If that had happened, you wouldn’t be asking questions. You’d know. The Sons are not a nice group of people and there would already been a form of open warfare going on. SoS would have already pulled in the MCs that they recruit from to bulk their numbers and find out who’s really worth recruiting.

      What you’re really seeing is bullshit from people who don’t know anything and are seeing people moving around for the various bike rallies going on in CO this past weekend. and a couple that are upcoming.

      • S9, clearly you did not get the memo.

        Your accurate information is quite a disappointment to those who crave violence and mayhem.

        Really, Donald Trump went to all that trouble to make sure the illegal Venezuelan immigrants have safe Harbor in the United States destabilizing the incoming administration.

        Everybody was really excited, a war between bikers and immigrants would’ve been so entertaining, but no, you have to point out actual facts and crash their groove.

        Next, you’re going to tell me Santa Claus was a swarthy Turkish guy who hung out with a shady character called Black Peter.

        • I read various numbers for the number of illegals over the border since 2020 – call it 20 million. 145,000/20,000,000= .0074 ish. That’s .7 per cent, so shut up already.

          Oh right, you can’t, that 145k were ACTUAL POLITICAL REFUGEES from the Maduro “administration” and hence likely right-leaning – and hence cannot be tolerated, unlike left-leaning economic aspirants…

          Ah, the macabre obsessions of the counter-revolutionary Left. Totally disgusting to decent folk they are.

          So shut up already.

          • Orange Man/Republicans bad is always the answer. It makes life easy because you never have to think about anything.

          • “that 145k were ACTUAL POLITICAL REFUGEES“

            Oh, so the conservatives are OK with those immigrants who are seeking political asylum?
            That’s quite a change in position…

            “the Maduro “administration”

            What’s your problem with the Maduro “administration”? Donald Trump thinks its just a Jim Dandy place to be:

            “Trump Suggests He’ll Flee to Venezuela If Harris Wins the Election
            He absurdly claimed that the South American dictatorship will be safer than the US.
            BY BESS LEVIN
            AUGUST 13, 2024

            “If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we’ll meet the next time in Venezuela, because it’ll be a far safer place to meet than our country,” Trump said to Musk. “OK, so we’ll go. You and I will go, and we’ll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela.”

            • Economic aspirant is not a synonym for political refugee. The poor folks looking for money that the Left loves to buy with tax money, are NOT refugees – they are marching towards dollars, not seeking refuge from persecution.

            • “What’s your problem with the Maduro “administration”? Donald Trump thinks its just a Jim Dandy place to be:

              “Trump Suggests He’ll Flee to Venezuela If Harris Wins the Election
              He absurdly claimed that the South American dictatorship will be safer than the US.”

              ^^^ bot speech! Doesn’t quite get the joke…

              • “Doesn’t quite get the joke… “

                Yeah, that’s the excuse the conservatives always give when Donald Trump gets called out, “he’s just joking!”.

                Given his fetish for dictators, including his “love affair” with Kim Jong Un it’s beginning to look as if he has a man-crush on Maduro.

        • Another lie you put forth there Miner49er. I stopped counting your lies at 107 in the other article comments.

  12. Methinks Ms. Jurinsky needs a personal protection detail now. At the least she, and those around her, need to tool up pronto.

  13. Democrats like Polis will cope by saying it’s not real. Anybody still unsure who to vote for at this point?

  14. A developing demcraptic controlled hell-hole, where law abiding citizen are made defenseless against criminals.

    • That display of power on the part of the criminals turns Polis on. He wants to S*$U(C@K all of these criminals off.

    • “A developing demcraptic controlled hell-hole, where law abiding citizen are made defenseless against criminals“

      We’re discussing Aurora, Colorado, which has a Republican mayor in his second term and a Republican city Council, that makes it a “demcraptic controlled hell-hole“.

      Really?

      So who is responsible for supervising the police force in Aurora?

      • For the majority of it’s existence or recently with limited if any ability to change entrenched union protected personnel?

      • Void, I don’t know what the problem could be with the Aurora police department, they seem to be a real law and order organization:

        “On Nov. 16, 2021, the APD announced it had reached an agreement with Attorney General Weiser to reform policing and improve public safety, CBS Denver reported.

        THE AGREEMENT CAME AFTER AN INVESTIGATION TEAM APPOINTED BY WEISER’S OFFICE found THAT THE APD HAD “A PATTERN AND PRACTICE OF RACIALLY BIASED POLICING, USING EXCESSIVE FORCE, AND FAILING TO RECORD REQUIRED INFORMATION WHEN IT INTERACTS WITH THE COMMUNITY,” ADDING THAT THE BIASED POLICING OFTEN TARGETS “PEOPLE OF COLOR AS A WHOLE AND BLACK PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR.”

        “THE RACIAL DISPARITIES WE OBSERVED EXTEND TO NEARLY EVERY SIGNIFICANT FACET OF POLICE CONTACT WITH THE COMMUNITY, FROM INTERACTIONS TO ARRESTS TO USES OF FORCE,” THE INVESTIGATION NOTED.

        THE 14-MONTH INVESTIGATION WAS THE RESULT OF NATIONWIDE OUTRAGE OVER THE DEATH OF ELIJAH MCCLAIN, A 23-YEAR-OLD BLACK MAN WHO PASSED AWAY IN 2019 DAYS AFTER HE WAS DETAINED BY APD.

        AFTER RECEIVING A 911 CALL SAYING MCCLAIN, WHO WAS WALKING HOME FROM A CONVENIENCE STORE, “LOOKED SKETCHY,” THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTED, APD OFFICERS ATTEMPTED TO HANDCUFF HIM AND USED A CAROTID HOLD (A NOW-BANNED CHOKEHOLD METHOD). PARAMEDICS INJECTED HIM WITH KETAMINE, A POWERFUL SEDATIVE. ON THE WAY TO THE HOSPITAL, MCCLAIN WENT INTO CARDIAC ARREST.“

        Maybe they’re too busy harassing black folks to actually deal with the illegal Venezuelan immigrants’ crimes.

        • It wasn’t enough that you inflict your trolling on us Miner49er, now ya gotta scream it at us.

          • No screaming, the capitalization was in the original source document.

            My practice is to include the pertinent point verbatim from the source document, that’s the most honest way to support my position.

            And anyway, did you really get your knickers all in a wad because some of those words are capitalized?
            Geez what a whiner, you’re as bad as Donald Trump with your fee-fees.

            • MajorLiar,

              But GOD FORBID that someone have the audacity to question YOUR education, intellect, or thought processes (“thought” used with tongue firmly in cheek!)! Let me be specific, and categorical – you are an ignoranus, 90%+ of what you CLAIM to “know” is utter horsesh*t. You don’t have double standards; you have no standards whatsoever – you lie constantly, you condemn behavior on the “other side”, and IGNORE the SAME or worse activities by your own side (Senile Joe AND Barry Soetoro have BOTH made videos at ANC that were subsequently used in campaign videos/ads), you are logically inconsistent (to the extent that you are “logically” ANYTHING), you CONSTANTLY lie, you are a propagandist sh*tposting Leftist/fascist idiot . . . and when we call you out about it, you pout (or, more commonly, just run away like the coward you are).

              There, is that specific enough for you? Was I ambiguous in ANY way? ESAD, MajorIdiot, and go expire in an excavation while you are at it.

  15. Funny how these gangs and criminals always show up in leftist/democrat controlled cities.
    Just another reason I made an effort to get out of the big city and refuse to live in such a place. Sure it may be more convenient to have all the alleged services and entertainment close at hand, but at what cost to personal security and liberties.
    Long past time for local citizens to wise up and stop supporting the leftist agenda. And long past time for the citizens to step up and do what the local or state governments can’t or won’t do.

    • Speaking of locals wising up, here is one I would like to know more about. Looks like maybe an oldfashioned case of got-to-arrest-somebody –

      “HONOLULU (AP) — Three people were killed and two others injured in a shooting at a home stemming from a dispute between neighbors on Saturday night in Hawaii, police said. The shooter was also fatally shot by a resident, who was arrested on a second-degree murder charge.

      Witnesses reported that a 58-year-old man was using a front-end loader to ram cars into the home where a family gathering was taking place, then opened fire at people gathered in the carport, fatally shooting three women at the residence in Waianae, a community about 30 miles (48 kilometers) west of downtown Honolulu, Honolulu police detective Lt. Deena Thoemmes said.

      At some point, a 42-year-old man who lived in the home fatally shot the suspect with a handgun. A police spokesperson did not immediately respond to to a telephone message or an email asking for details about why the resident was arrested.”

    • What’s weird how this wasn’t anywhere near the problem that it is now until Aurora voted in the R’s pretty much across the board.

      People don’t like to hear this kind of thing but this is coming to your state if they are not turned back.

      Mark my words on this: 50/50 Texas stays red this year. If you think that sounds crazy, it’s because you have no idea what you’re up against.

    • “Funny how these gangs and criminals always show up in leftist/democrat controlled cities“

      Wait a minute, I thought Aurora had a Republican mayor and city Council…

        • “Reading comprehension fail“

          No, you are just a low-grade troll who is not familiar with the city governance structure in Aurora, Colorado.

          They have a Republican city Council and a Republican mayor who is in his second term:

          “The 2023 Aurora mayoral election was held on November 7, 2023. Incumbent Republican mayor Mike Coffman ran for re-election to a second term in office.“

          How did you miss that?

          Honestly, Putin needs to step up his disinformation campaign and get a better grade of troll to poison America’s social media.

          • For a low grade troll I seemed to grasp the democratic state government having a say in where refugees end up and how to have things publicized when convenient was the subject. Of course as a low grade troll I am a bit too advanced for your level of cognitive ability especially if you were a didn’t earn it hire.

            • I guess you somehow missed this part of his post:

              “What’s weird how this wasn’t anywhere near the problem that it is now until Aurora voted in the R’s pretty much across the board“

              • Missing the forest for the trees or gaslighting either way you are fantastically easy to manipulate. Now please continue to push your narrative it’s hilarious.

      • “Wait a minute, I thought Aurora had a Republican mayor and city Council…”

        Reading comprehension fail… and I bet you don’t see why…

        Having a republican mayor and/or city council does not mean the city is not leftist/democrat controlled. That was the case here, the leftist/democrat ‘sanctuary’ crowd controlled the city in terms of these illegal entry Venezuelan gangs entering the country through the Biden-Harris ‘welcome mat’ of their intentionally insecure and open border and not being forced out or rounded up and arrested by police previously because the police were compromised by leftist/democrat sympathizers. The Mayor even alluded to this by saying the city had lost control of this and the police not doing anything previously even though they should have.

        Its true what he said “Funny how these gangs and criminals always show up in leftist/democrat controlled cities“.

  16. The government that is ostensibly suppose to protect us from this, and has instead decided the better course of action is to let them in in Job Lots, had better deal with this. Americans know how to deal with this. It doesn’t require law enforcement personnel. We’ll tolerate this insanity for a bit, but not forever.

  17. The libertarians liberals and the left have never believed in the concept of private property rights.

    If you as a property owner use deadly force to protect your private property. The three L’s will cheer the police when they come to arrest you. And always remember. The three L’s always say you can’t trust the police.

    The only thing that the three L’s support is legal butt sex and drugs. They are comfortable slaves in states like Colorado. And they want everyone else to be slaves too.

    • *yawn*

      Here’s the Colorado Libertarian who’s been fighting this shit for 40 years while dipshit Conservatives hold their dicks and wonder why they lose. He’ll even explain to you exactly how this works. What the Left did and what the Right’s been failing to do for decades.

      You know, the same things I’ve been saying for YEARS? The Left hustles, you don’t. Then you lose and complain about it. It’s not that they’re smarter. They just work harder. Which isn’t difficult because Cons don’t actually work.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSNVIb-f90I&t=3s

  18. Difficult for me to understand HOW people continue to vote in the clueless socialist dems who ignore the laws they don’t like, don’t enforce them and have no boundaries, embracing criminals to do whatever they want. They create the environment for crime to grow. THEN they prevent people from defending themselves!!!

  19. Sorry for the good people trapped in Colorado by whatever keeps you there but you either voted for or allowed the current government to take power by not voting so my sympathy only goes so far. Sell if you can and move regardless – your state is already lost and isn’t going to get better. Or just chew another “gummie”, sit back and relax…whatever happens it’s all good because you stuck it to the rich and can get legal THC now – well worth a few rapes, robberies and murders…

  20. It appears what this article has shed light upon one thing:

    WE ARE NO LONGER SAFE IN THE USA….

    and….The POLICE will NOT be coming to our aid.

      • Not everyone saw that shit firsthand and/or had on the ground alternative media reporting stuff as it happened (Fulton county news had amazing footage of the Albany riots). Pair that with the newspaper effect (you recognize bullshit in the media within your field of expertise but gloss over other areas and assume it’s the truth) and the propaganda machine keeps running even if less effectively/efficiently.

        • The “newspaper effect” you discuss is called the “Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect”. It’s named after a physicist who noted it.

          The term was, IIRC, *named* (or maybe popularized?) by Michael Crichton somewhere around the millennium.

    • “The POLICE will NOT be coming to our aid”

      Interesting, I wonder why the Aurora Police Department (that has a Republican mayor and city council overseeing their activities) won’t come if you call…

      Maybe they need to elect a democratic mayor and city government that will be more responsive to the needs of the people.

    • Patrick,

      OTOH, if even TMZ can see the problem, and report it, what does that imply about the REST OF the MSM??? Hell, even Commie News Network gets it right every century or so (MSDNC, less so). Sure, there are probably better sources out there, but . . . isn’t the fact that even THESE sources see the issue, and report on it, PART of the story?

    • Which part is unreliable: the eyewitness accounts and statements of the residents, the councilwoman helping people move, the police saying they’re ‘forming a taskforce”? Maybe the local news reports?

      The NY Post said water is wet. Sure wish I heard that from a more reliable source before jumping into a lake.

      Perhaps the real takeaway is why aren’t more news outlets covering the story. Even if only to report on it being a crackpot conspiracy.

      Here: https://www.allsides.com/search?search=Apartment%20Colorado%20

      Kinda looks like all the coverage is from Center and Right biased outlets. Not many or any Left biased outlets reporting on it. A reason?

    • Based off the last 4.5 years they are about the most accurate news outlets for just about anything political and just below the Babylon Bee for pandemic related issues. But if you are quibbling over main stream news being relevant in accuracy LOL, LMAO even.

      • “they are about the most accurate news outlets for just about anything political and just below the Babylon Bee for pandemic related issues“

        Do you believe the Babylon bee provides accurate news on pandemic related issues?

        You know of course, the articles in the Babylon bee are bullshit.

        “The Babylon Bee is a conservative Christian news satire website that publishes satirical articles on topics including religion, politics, current events, and public figures. It has been referred to as a Christian or conservative version of The Onion.“

        Maybe that explains this whole livestock dewormer disinformation campaign…

        • Without a trace of irony the Babalyon Bee provided more accurate and relevant news regarding the pandemic than any mainstream source you care to name and ivermectin even in it’s horse paste form was more effective in treatment than any vaccine or eua drug shat out by the corporate owned fda chimera. Bitch and moan as you like but they lost the narrative years ago.

        • Sigh moderation again so let’s start with reading comprehension fail as it seems to be common for you lately. The Bee was accurate on pandemic hilariously tragically accurate. For anything else it is satire and you seem to be conflating my comment about the post to include the bee for all things beyond that limited distinction. That it’s often more on point that mainstream news is less an endorsement of the bee than the utter failure that is government run/directed propaganda. Oh and the horse paste works better than anything phizer put out so joke is on you.

          • The irony is that quite recently miner was treating a b bee article as serious – something about putin sending troops to England – I suspect whiner is turning himself into a bot to expand his footprint, and the ai-miner ain’t quite ready for free range, yet. I am sure that real miner knows about the bee, and the ai-miner is just demonstrating its recent lesson in its lecture about said bee. It should work, as formulaic as his stuff is… jmho

            Interesting times…

            • Honestly with the amount of oddball errors of that profile I was wondering if an ESL troll farm (India, Russia, Israel etc) was what was going on especially with how his screen name would have subtle differences on occasion. Hell could be both and either way total nosedive from pre pandemic or even 2 years ago.

              • Certainly possible from what I know.

                Lol, I like my speculation better – aging de facto marxist college professor, still thinks che was cool, creates ai clone to terrorize the internet after he is gone. Having some troubles with the housebreaking part.

                Life is short, work hard, have fun…

              • Works for me, time to test out the 475 loads and see where I lose the ability to use it effectively.

  21. WTF?? Are we now going to fuzz out the faces on wanted posters at the post office? Wouldn’t it be a good idea to know what the perps looked like?

  22. Sure glad those democratic cities have all those gun control laws. Keeps the criminals safer and the civilians controlled and complacent. Man hi caps are saving them. 😈

  23. I have a couple of questions.

    1. Is one to assume that the Good Guys are without arms?
    2. What might it be that local police do to earn their pay?

    • Honestly, all that crazy shit you hear from the “defund the police” crowd? You know, the stuff you think is either bullshit or an isolated incident being blown out of proportion?

      That’s what APD spends its time doing. No, I’m not joking.

      They are, bar none, the most unprofessional law enforcement agency I have ever had the pleasure to deal with. Which, by the by, is why they cannot retain anyone worth a shit. Their culture is just, well, in the modern parlance it would be said to be “toxic”. Anyone who is decent spends 9-12 months on APD when they first start out and then goes to another agency.

      Mind you my list includes LE in 3rd world countries most people here wouldn’t set foot in. I mean, APD is just across the board unbelievable.

      I won’t bore you with examples that I personally witness or experienced. I’ll simply say that they make DPD look DAMN good.

      • Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Aurora, Colorado enjoy the benefit of a Republican mayor and city Council?

        In their city government, doesn’t the Mayor’s administration exercise control over the police department?

          • This is why I constantly hammer that the right needs to do more homework. (Well, actually, they need to start by doing SOME because currently they do about zero.)

            Aurora has historically been a D city and has relatively recently turned R because the D’s fucked the place up worse than most people can imagine. You’re not going to fix that quickly, the ship doesn’t turn on a dime. But whoever’s in charge now owns the problems.

            The bulk of the city’s bureaucracy is still true blue and actively working to undermine the R mayor and city council.

            The State and City/Country of Denver will assist in this undermining unless things get so bad that it becomes a PR nightmare for them, which it won’t unless there’s literal open warfare going on, which is unlikely.

            And the “bUt itZ aN R citY!” talking point is going to get rammed down your throat if you’re not careful about it which the Right never is. Which is why there are a ton of X accounts blaming the people of Aurora for this and saying they’re a D city. Because they must be, right? Must be! They’re in Colorado FFS! What’s that saying about ASSumptions?

            IRL, this is all a very convenient side-show to distract from what’s going on in Denver on half a dozen fronts. The city is, effectively, collapsing at this point. The gangs have figured out that DPD will pull an officer off patrol if there’s a threat against that officer, so the gangs make public threats and the city has very limited police patrols now.

            That’s on top of the CRE issues, tax base problems, massive reduction in commuters and tourists (cell tracking data puts the city at ~65% of 2019 daily numbers)… the list goes on.

            This is going to be another example of something I’ve been prattling on about for years. The D’s will create a shitshow and then stick it on the R’s because the R’s simply don’t do any work and have an entitlement complex that they should win because they’re right. Meanwhile, the Left is working its ass off to nail you to the wall.

            And, mostly, they will. Based on all the available data, I wouldn’t be shocked if Texas goes Blue this year and Florida follows in 2026 or 2028. Because Team Blue puts in work and Team Red simply doesn’t. The same people screaming that I’m insane and this cannot happen will by crying buckets when it does happen. And, without a major organized pushback, it will.

        • The Police Chief is appointed by the City Manager.

          The CM is appointed by the City Council, which includes the Ward representatives who are “nonpartisan” in terms of party and who make up the majority. Six of them vs four at large council members.

          Their leanings vary. Ward V, for instance, is represented by a lady with a PoliSci degree from Berkeley and a MA in public administration from UC-Denver. Ward IV is represented by an “artist”

          So, no, the mayor’s administration does not realistically exercise control over the police department.

  24. “This is the America leftists want“

    Nappy, correct me if I’m wrong but it’s my understanding Aurora Colorado has a Republican Mayor who is in his second term and a Republican City Council.

    Isn’t the mayor and city council in charge of the police department, or am I getting the city government structure wrong and there’s some mystery group of leftists who are in charge of policing in Aurora?

    • Funny “man” – just what does a Colorado Republican look like in order to get elected? My guess is their policies aren’t any different than the Dems, they just dress better.

      • “just what does a Colorado Republican look like”

        Oh wow, you’ve just deployed the ‘No true Scotsman fallacy‘, bravo!

        You may be right, he’s well educated and is a veteran who served his country honorably, no way are you going to support him:

        “He enlisted in the army himself at age 17, serving two years before leaving for the reserves to attend college. Coffman received his B.A. from the University of Colorado Boulder, while also attending special programs at Harvard University and the University of Veracruz. After transferring to the Marine Corps Reserve, Coffman founded a property management company in Aurora in 1983. As a soldier, Coffman served in both the Gulf War and the Iraq War.“

        • “As a soldier, Coffman served in both the Gulf War and the Iraq War.“”

          Like Walz did not do but claimed he served in war anyway. At least Coffman earned his valor and didn’t steal it like Walz did.

        • All of which is immaterial to my supposition – in order to be elected in a leftist/statist/socialist/fascist dominated political system you become leftist/statist/socialist/fascist regardless of whatever party label you assume.

          And as entertaining as I find Robert Heinlein’s ideas in Starship Trooper I have no reason to find them valid as the basis for a political system. In my nearly 40 years of military service I encountered plenty of selfish, venal, unintelligent people serving – just at a slightly lower ratio than the general public.

        • All of which is immaterial to my supposition – in order to be elected in a left 1st/st@t ist/social l1st/fas€ 1$t dominated political system you become left 1st/st@ tist/social l1st/fas€ 1$t regardless of whatever party label you assume.

          And as entertaining as I find Robert Heinlein’s ideas in Starship Trooper I have no reason to find them valid as the basis for a political system. In my nearly 40 years of military service I encountered plenty of selfish, venal, unintelligent people serving – just at a slightly lower ratio than the general public.

  25. Two comments here: This is what the electorate voted for, ban guns allow sanctuary to illegals; and don’t you just hate it when trolls like miner49er take over the conversation?
    Probably await moderation by the editors until the conversation is forgotten.

    • To some extent the first part is true but the fallout typically hits those who didn’t vote for it the worst. The second part is just previews on how things will be spun and why it is devoid of critical thought or relevant information. The focus on whataboutism over addressing issues will always be the tell.

      • The subject of the article above is clear, illegal Venezuelan immigrants causing crime in the City of Aurora.

        Donald Trump intentionally blocked the deportation of any illegal Venezuelan immigrants on January 19, 2021, blocking the deportation of immigrants who illegally entered the United States during his four year term, giving them a further 1.5 years to infiltrate the population of the United States.

        Further, the city government of Aurora is expressly Republican, operating under a Republican mayor on his second term and a Republican city Council that exercises control and supervision of the Aurora police department.

        Your sad attempts to blame Donald Trump or Kamala Harris are laughable.

    • This is what the electorate voted for, ban guns allow sanctuary to illegals

      Did they?

      Or was that mostly the city of Denver which abuts Aurora and which is actively exporting its problems to any other jurisdiction that it can? The state doesn’t have any gun bans either, though the removal of preemption will allow some cities to ban “assault weapons” going forward.

      And let’s not forget that a full 20% of the current legislature has never stood for an election either. They were appointed instead.

      Now, if you want a problem that will spread, the coming vote on banning meatpacking in the City of Denver will have nationwide effects. The major facility in question does 20-25% of all lamb nationwide. It will not move, it will simply shut down if the vegans get their way, which they probably will.

  26. So where are all those HEROIC AMERICAN GUN OWNERS Standing Guard and protecting the innocent?

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