1916 DWM Luger P.08, 9mm, (W/ Holster) - Named W/ WWII Capture Papers & History (see details below)
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Want to own a piece of firearms history or maybe just a cool gun you can’t find in your local gun shop or maybe even gun show? Will Sullivan Auction Co.’s Guns & Military Artifacts online auction has 562 items up for bid, but today is the last day to enter your bids. At the time of this writing there is less than 23 hours left to place your bids with lots starting to close at 10 am CST on Saturday, March 16.

This is an online timed event only, and everything will sell to the highest bidder regardless of price. The only way to bid is through ProxiBid, an only auction service. There is no live audience and no phone bids to compete against. A credit card is required to register and to provide bidder verification but is not charged unless you are the high bidder on an item.

Here are just a handful of the cool items up for bid and their descriptions:

1918 U.S. Army Colt 1911, 45 ACP Pistol W/ Holster & Officers Tunic, SN – 294608

1918 U.S. Army Colt 1911, 45 ACP Pistol W/ Holster & Officers Tunic

PISTOL: According to the Colt Archives serial number database, this Model 1911 was manufactured in 1918. This gun is marked “MODEL OF 1911 U.S. ARMY” on the right side of the slide, “UNITED STATES PROPERTY” on the left side of the frame, “PATENTED APR. 20, 1897. SEPT. 9, 1902/ DEC. 19, 1905. FEB. 14, 1911. AUG. 19, 1913″ & COLT’S PT. F.A. MFG. CO/ HARTFORD, CT. U.S.A.” on the left side of the slide, “NO. 294608” on the right side of the frame and “JMG” inspector’s monogram on the left side of the frame (J.M. Gilbert found on Colt 1911s from 1917 to 1918 SN 230,001 to 302,000). Features include a 5″ barrel, lanyard ring with twist tied leather strap, diamond checkered wooden grips, two-tone 7-round steel magazine, beavertail grip safety, thumb safety, serrated slide stop, serrated hammer and dovetailed rear sight. This gun appears to be in original condition with some various light bluing wear, has a nice sharp/ clean bore and appears to be in good working order. HOLSTER: M1912 “U.S.” embossed brown leather swivel-type flap holster with hanger & shoulder strap. This holster is marked “ROCK ISLAND ARSENAL/ 1914/ H.E.K”, “C.K.” & E.F.M” on the back and “3AER0132” on the front. TUNIC: U.S. Army green officers tunic with brown cuff braids and 3rd Army bullion patch (size unknown). These items sell together as a group. Standard “one gun” shipping charges apply. COLT 1911 HISTORY: The Colt Model 1911 is a single-action, recoil-operated, semi-automatic pistol chambered for the .45 ACP cartridge. Designed by John Browning, the Model 1911 Colt Government is the best known of his designs to use the short recoil principle in its basic design. The pistol was widely copied, and this operating system rose to become the pre-eminent type of the 20th century and of nearly all modern centerfire pistols. The pistol served as the standard-issue sidearm for the United States Armed Forces from 1911 to 1985 and is widely regarded by gun historians as the best firearm design to date. Battlefield experience in World War I led to some small external changes to the M1911. Completed in 1924, the new version was called the M1911A1.

Original WWII Iwo Jima, Kamikaze Attack Squadron Flag W/ Flight Goggles & Photos

Original WWII Iwo Jima, Kamikaze Attack Squadron Flag W/ Flight Goggles & Photos

This Imperial Japanese raw silk Kyokujitsuki Rising Sun flag, (31.5” x 27”), reads from center: “SUPREME COMMANDER OF IWO JIMA, KURIBAYASHI TADAMICHI KAMIKAZE ATTACK SQUADRON”. Written in the outer sun rays are the names of each pilot in the squadron. (See photos for names translated to English) ALSO INCLUDES: Original yellow lens flight goggles and two photographs of Mitsubishi Zero aircrafts in flight. Both of these items were obtained together, with the flag, from an original Kamikaze pilot’s family in circa 1970. EXTRA HISTORY: Selling with this outstanding original grouping is the death notice copies of each pilot mentioned on this flag. These copies were recently obtained from official Japanese Government Archives and some clearly bare false dates – crossed out and overwritten. This was done to “buy time” for fortifications on Okinawa & Honshu to be completed for the arrival of the allied Amanda. PROVENANCE: This unique grouping of Japanese WWII items is from an outstanding private Pacific War collection from a retired Japanese doctor. Here is the collection history dictated from the owner: “My collection started in Australia in 1969 when I was assigned to work at the hospital on Bribie Island Sth East Queensland, that was a staging point for allies into the Pacific in particular PNG Malaysia Indonesia, Java, and Guadalcanal. Training for special Z forces commandos’ missions also. Military hospitals were also established on Bribie island & many soldiers retired to Bribie island after the war. I continued collecting after moving to Papua, New Guinea in 1970. I purchased these items from the original Kamikaze’s family in circa 1970-1972 (flag, goggles & photos). Leaving PNG in 1980, I continued collecting in Australia until 1992, then moved back to Japan, collecting throughout Japan. It is currently not clear which Kamikaze pilot’s family these items were sent to. Shipping Cost: $30.00 for lower U.S. – International Shipping based on carrier rates.

G.I. Bring-Back 1943 German Walther (AC43) P.38 (Numbers Matching), 9mm Luger, Semi-Auto, SN – 4128F

G.I. Bring-Back 1943 German Walther

This pistol is a WWII GI Bring-Back. The family of the GI is currently looking for a folder that their dad had regarding the many guns that he sent back home or brought back from the war. This folding may have the Bring-Back certificate, and/ or other significant information. The new owner will inherit any relevant paperwork that is found – if it is found. If the family finds anything prior to the auction closing, it will be listed in this description asap…. This WWII German P.38 is marked “ac” (manufactured by Walther), “43” (1943), along with Nazi proof stamps throughout. This gun is numbers matching on all visible parts. SPECS: 5″ Barrel, brown ribbed grips, lanyard ring, dovetailed sights and original Nazi proofed steel magazine. CONDITION: This gun is in nice condition with some various light wear, has a nice sharp/ clean bore and appears to be in good working order. HISTORY: The P.38 is a 9mm Luger semi-automatic pistol that was developed by Carl Walther GmbH as the service pistol of the German Army at the beginning of World War II. The P.38 was a groundbreaking semi-automatic pistol design which introduced technical features still used today in current commercial and military semi-automatic pistols. It was the first locked-breech pistol to use a double-action/single-action (DA/SA) trigger. The P.38 also introduced a visible and tactile loaded chamber indicator in the form of a metal rod that protrudes from the rear of the slide when a round is chambered. During WWII, the P.38 was produced by three separate manufacturers: Walther, Mauser, and Spreewerk. To conceal manufacturer identities, each wartime manufacturer used a letter code: ac (Walther); byf (Mauser), and cyq (Spreewerk).

1881 Winchester Model 1873 (21.25″), 44-40 W.C.F., Lever-Action, SN – 79759

1881 Winchester Model 1873

According to Winchester Arms Collector Organization, this Model 1873 (44-40 Winchester Center Fire) was produced in 1881. SPECS: This rifle sports a 21.25″ octagon barrel, smooth walnut stock, crescent metal buttplate with trapdoor compartment, adjustable folding leaf rear sight, dovetailed German silver blade front sight, brass lifter and full-length magazine tube. CONDITION: This gun is showing wear but is solid, has a sharp bore with light pitting and appears to be in good working order. HISTORY: The Model 1873 was one of the most successful Winchester rifles of all time, known as “The Gun That Won the West”, manufactured between 1873 and 1923. It was originally chambered in popular handgun cartridges of the day (44-40, 38-40 & 32-20), allowing users to carry just one type of ammunition. It was produced in three variations: Rifle – 24″ barrel, Carbine – 20″ barrel, and a “musket” which was aimed at military contracts.

1942 U.S. Springfield M1 Garand, 30-06 Sprg., Semi-Auto, SN – 1084899

1942 U.S. Springfield M1 Garand

According to the U.S. M1 Garand Serial Numbers production chart, this U.S. Springfield M1 Garand Rifle represents an original production date of 1942 and sports an SA barrel dated “4-45”. The stock is stamped “RIA/ EB” (Rock Island Armory – Elmer Bjerke) on the left side, “135” (rack number), and “P” (proofed) under the grip. Features include a 24″ barrel, walnut stock & handguard, adjustable aperture rear battle sight, wing protected front post sight, bayonet lug, sling rings with period correct tan canvas sling, checkered metal buttplate with cleaning kit compartment (includes kit) and 8-round internal magazine. This gun is in nice condition with very light battle wear, has a sharp/ clean bore and appears to be in good working order. HISTORY: The M1 Garand is a .30-06 caliber semi-automatic rifle that was the standard U.S. service rifle during World War II and the Korean War. The M1 rifle was named after its Canadian-American designer, John Garand. The M1 Garand replaced the bolt-action M1903 Springfield as the standard U.S. service rifle in 1936, and General George S. Patton called it “the greatest battle implement ever devised”. It is a gas-operated, 8 shot clip-fed, semi-automatic rifle that is 43.6″ long, weighs about 9.5 pounds and has a 24″ barrel. The M1 Garand was made in large numbers, primarily by U.S. Springfield, during World War II.

1931 Colt “Bankers Special” (2″), 38 S&W, Revolver, SN – 350522

1931 Colt “Bankers Special”

According to Colt Archives Serial Number Database, this “Bankers Special” was produced in 1931. HISTORY: The Colt Bankers Special is one of the most valuable of the small “modern” Colts. It is a small double-action revolver that was made from 1926 to 1943 with a very short barrel (2 inches). A total of only 35,000 were manufactured in the following calibers: 22 LR (very rare), 32 S&W Long, and 38 S&W (not 38 Special). Many non-collectors get confused because it says Banker’s Special alongside the number 38 on the barrel, so they assume it must be 38 SPL. – no Banker Specials were ever chambered for 38 Special. The Banker’s Special was the official side-arm of the U.S. Post Office railway clerks from 1928 until the 1940s. SPECS: This gun sports a standard 2″ barrel, brown checkered Bakelite grips, serrated hammer, fixed sights and 6-shot swing-out cylinder. CONDITION: This gun is in beautiful condition with no wear to speak of, has an excellent sharp/ clean bore & appears to be in good working order. INTERESTING FACT: An interesting footnote to the Banker’s Special is that on the 60s TV programs from Hollywood (77 Sunset Strip and the FBI series) Efraim Zimbalist Jr. carried a Banker’s Special. He was not a large man, so all other revolvers that were put in his hand made him look even smaller. Someone purchased a Banker’s Special in the 32 Long Colt caliber and that is what he carried for the duration of those shows.

1916 DWM Luger P.08, 9mm, (W/ Holster) – Named W/ WWII Capture Papers & History, SN – 3096

1916 DWM Luger P.08, 9mm, (W/ Holster)

This 1916 DWM Luger P08 Pistol is a WWII U.S. “bring back” from Ronald M. Elting, 2nd Lt, TC (Ronald passed away in 1952 – consigned by his family). HISTORY: On December 9, 1945, 2nd Lt. Elting was commissioned to captain the vessel “Hansestadt”, also known as “Hitler’s Yacht”, from the town of Cologne (Koln) to Christhof-Ruthof shipyard. This yacht was a gift from the city of Koln to Hitler in the early 1930s and was used by Hitler, and other high ranking Nazi officials, to travel the Rhine River. One month prior to this sailing order, 2nd Lt. Elting requested, and was granted, permission from the United States War Department to retain possession of this DWM P08 Luger. DOCUMENTATION INCUDED: Official German Waterway, U.S. Zone, Eltville/ Rhein signed Permit No. 0001 (which officially made the ship “U.S. Property”) under new captain Lt. Ronald M. Elting, T.C., dated September 15, 1945 (framed). Certificate Of Captured Enemy Equipment “LUGER SEMI AUTO PISTOL/ MODEL 1916 – 9MM/ SERIAL NO 3096” signed by headquarters; Harbor Craft Detachment APO 757 Request For Authorization Of Weapon, dated “2nd November, 1945”, signed by Ronald M. Elting, Walter G. Swistowicz (HC Det. Commander) & Joseph Good ( Chief Administration); European Theater Orders – “MOVEMENT OF HANSA STADT KOLN (HITLER’S YACHT)/ CAPTAIN OF HANSA STADT KOLN ATTN: LT. ELTING” signed by Walter Swistowicz (HC Det. Commander); (2) Original small black & white photographs of the yacht taken by Lt. Elting; Original 9.5″x7.5″ black & white photograph with “U.S. Army” lettering; (2) Printed photographs of the yacht from the book “WWII German War Booty” by Thomas M Johnson; original 27″ x 21″ blueprint of the yacht, Communications Zone Europe shoulder patch, and Army Service Forces shoulder patch. PISTOL: DWM/Erfurt Model 1914 – German Military Contract, dated 1916. CONDITION: This P08 Luger sports a full nickel finish, 4″ barrel, checkered wooden grips and wood bottom magazine. This gun has a sharp/ clean bore and appears to be in good working order. This gun appears to be all original, visible numbers matching (with the exception of the magazine) with WWI era Imperial German Army markings. HOLSTER: Brown leather shell holster with Bavarian 2nd Corp. “Crown II” stamped on the back and “HOHMANN & SOHN/ KAISERSLAUTERN/ 1918” stamped on the inside of the flap. ASSESSMENT: The oral family history of this gun is that it was surrendered to Lt. Ronald M. Elting by a high-ranking German Officer who has some sort of affiliation with the Hansestadt (Hitler’s Yacht). This entire grouping of items was inherited by Mr. Elting’s sister at the time of his death in the 1952. All of these items have been stored in a military trunk from that time until just recently. These items have been unseen and forgotten for over 70 years. WWII G.I. “Trophies Of War” with official documentation are among the most desirable items for early military collectors and historians. The story associated with this pistol is not only interesting, but also extremely unique. This pistol with paperwork/ history would not only display well but would be a great addition to any historical collection.

As in every auction, expect a number of items, particularly the most collectible and most rare, to go for ridiculous prices, particularly as the bids begin to close. But a quick scan at a number of the more ordinary and commonly purchasable firearms toward the back pages with just over 22 hours to go shows some pretty good guns still available for very reasonable, if not downright, affordable prices. Now that is all likely to change, but it appears with more than 500 items available for sale, it looks like some people get tired of looking and scrolling through items in the first part of the auction so fewer eyeballs make it to the later items.

If you decide to bid, make sure you are familiar with any fees (there are some), shipping requirements and costs and all other terms and conditions.

Happy bidding or at the very least, happy dreaming. It’s fun just to see what’s available.

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12 COMMENTS

  1. Cool! I’ve been let into the inner sanctum vault of an unnamed jeweler. Millions of $ of gats,militaria,flags & the coolest collection of lever rifles. This auction is beyond my means but we’ve made hundreds of thousands of bucks selling art & antiques at auction. BTW TTAG has been quite glitchy the last day🙄

  2. First, is this an op-ed, or were you paid for this article by the auction company

    So let’s see what that P38 would cost right now:
    Current bid: $1,100
    10% “internet premium”: $110
    1.5% ACH payment processing fee: $16.50, or
    4% credit card processing fee: $44
    “Paperwork fee”: $15
    Shipping: $60
    Sales Tax: depends on buyer’s state

    That’s $1301.50 plus tax and whatever your FFL charges minimum for the transfer for a decent, but unremarkable pistol with thinning finish on the front grip strap and some scattered light putting and high point bluing loss.

    It’s been a few years since I was in the market for a P38, but I wouldn’t value this at more than $1000. if you are shopping for a P38, you could get an equal or better condition piece at a significant discount over this by spending a few days surfing the WTS ads on forums dedicated to WWII handguns. Hell, a bit of patience on GunBroker will also get you the same or better for less money

    This is an issue I see every time I browse offerings from an auction house: not so great pricing to begin with, combined with a plethora of made up fees. “Paperwork fee”? Get real; it’s like a restaurant charging you an additional fee from the menu price to actually take your order over to the kitchen to prepare your meal.

    Auctions have their place, they’re pretty much the only game in town for extremely rare and valuable items where the seller is trying to squeeze out the maximum price the market will bear in buyers aren’t concerned about getting a value. These items just aren’t in that realm.

    • You haven’t been keeping up. On-line auctions at hibid and proxibid replaced in person auctiona during the chicom flu panic. In particular for firearms. No sign that this is going to change. Huge business. Well run auction will make the seller WAY more $ than the old backyard/farmstead/theater auction. However low $ % being “good” – lots of clear photos and text to clearly identify the item at sale. Reasonable surcharge, discount for cash, bill shipping at actual, No FFL fees unless delivering to the buyer.

      OR some (few) auction houses regards the guns listed for sale as not owned by the auction co but they are assisting with a private sale so no 4473 is needed.

      10% surcharge for gun auction is cheap. Nearly every auction co in the US thinks they should get 24% like the high class guys in RockIsland. For posting a couple out of focus photos (unlike RI). Those are the bad apples.

      24% is still ridiculous.
      I don;t care how artsy fartsy you are.
      https://cdn.rockislandauction.com/flipbooks/4091-MAILER/index.html?utm_source=Rock Island Auction News&utm_campaign=322a212c6d-2024.03.15 Aerial artifacts of WW2&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f4b8db853-f049ba699e-[LIST_EMAIL_ID]#p=1

      • uh..I was told by the forum’s resident keystone cop gadsten not to be talking pinching pennies…you’ve been forewarned or face the wrath of gadsten…lol.

        • Debbie, I pay what something is worth. If I’m lucky I get a good deal. March 14 I took delivery of Behring made Kukri. Crocodile Dundee only thought he had a big knife. $1300. That’s just what they cost. Absolutely no use for it. I just thought it was cool.

  3. I don’t know which Winchester 1873 they’re selling, but the one in the auction photos, like the photo in this story, have no such “adjustable folding leaf rear sight”. That’s just your basic sliding open notch sight.

    • You got the expensive part right. The guns posted here are all in nice condition, but there’s nothing remarkable about them.

      The M1 is a typical CMP rebuild except for the lockbar sights. The 1942 receiver with 1945 barrel and replacement stamped trigger guard give it away even without seeing the lot numbers on the other parts.

      The nickeled Luger has a 0% finish by collector standards, and it’s debatable if the capture papers and ephemera from its owner add enough to the value to get it back up to what it would have been worth in original condition absent any provenence. Buy the gun, not the story- even if the story if true, interesting, and probable.

      I don’t see anything here that wouldn’t have an equivalent pop up on Gunbroker over any six month period with a lower final price.

      The other guy is right, if you’re a collector of WWII guns or antique Winchestors or Colt revolvers, you’re going to get a better deal and have much more assurance that nothing was fucked with if you shop the classifieds in the internet forums dedicated to collecting those things.

  4. The 1916 DWM Luger P08 Pistol WWII U.S. “bring back” was not an uncommon ‘bring back’ by American GI’s. Most of them were just turned in when the GI’s were ordered to do so.

    In some areas, a GI would be permitted to keep a firearm they ‘liberated’, in other areas with other commanders they were not permitted to do so and were ordered to turn them in.

    Some of these 1916 DWM Luger P08 Pistols though did make it back to the states with the GI’s. We have one in our collection. My dad bought it back and it went into the collection of my parents, us kids inherited this collection. I maintain the entire collection though so its all stored in my area.

    My parents collection was a mixture of guns, one of them the 1916 DWM Luger P08 Pistol and a few more WWII firearms, and some WWI firearms and other firearms passed on to them, a colonial era flint lock pistol that saw service in the revolutionary war by an ancestor, and their own personal firearms.

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