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The city of Milwaukee continues to process a series of shootings in the downtown area last weekend. Known as the “Deer District,” in homage to the Milwaukee Bucks basketball team, the downtown entertainment district saw a trio of shooting sprees between 9:10 p.m. and 11:54 p.m., leaving more than 20 people injured. All of the victims, ranging from 15-47 years of age, are expected to recover.

Ten people were arrested, 17 were left injured, and 10 firearms were recovered from just one of the shootings. Five of those injured during that incident, according to the Milwaukee Police Department (MPD), were also armed and taken into custody. All of the incidents remain under investigation. A curfew was declared for people under 21 years of age, and downtown businesses reported fewer customers as people stayed away.

Developing long-term solutions related to gun control strategies has been a tough sell in the state Legislature. Milwaukee officials underscored the lack of discussion of those strategies in the wake of the latest shootings. Mayor Cavalier Johnson, in a press conference over the weekend, condemned the weekend shootings. …

The mayor’s sentiments were shared by some state legislatures (sic), who pointed to policies which help perpetuate gun violence in the city. “Despite continued violence in our communities and innocent people getting hurt,” said Rep. David Bowen (D-Milwaukee) in a May 17 statement, “Republicans have not budged on their lax approach to guns in our communities, which has allowed guns to flow to criminals and individuals with violence in their minds.” Bowen denounced what he called “the dangerous opposition from Republicans to common sense gun safety legislation [that] has allowed guns to continue to flow into the hands of those who shouldn’t have them.”

— Isiah Holmes in Milwaukee Officials Blast Republican Inaction on Gun Laws

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  1. Try asking your prosecutors and judges why they don’t keep the criminals in jail.

      • neiowa, do you mean Rodney and Obie too? They’re two of my best hunting buddies.

    • I was going to ask if anyone wants to take markers on how many of these “children” or “future scientists” have a bunch of priors and/or are on supervised release.

      • An ever increasing number and percentage lately. For us it’s more a bail reform (and other programs) thing letting repeat offenders out for more free time to offend

    • Developing long-term solutions related to gun control strategies has been a tough sell in the state Legislature.

      That’s because it’s not a gun problem. The 99% of gun owners around these people who tried to kill each other, didn’t try to kill anyone with their guns. In fact, 99.99% of them will go their whole life not killing anyone. So the problem isn’t guns, it’s the desire to kill each other. Maybe the garbage left can address that instead of people’s freedom. They always go after the freedom, rather than the root cause.

      • This game is no different than most of what government does.

        They create, or worsen, a problem and then off you a prepackaged solution that *just so happens* to enhance their power over you.

        Public oversight of .gov is supposed to curtail this. We’re supposed to “regard with suspicion anyone who approaches that jewel” of public liberty. But we haven’t really done that since 1945, and government has run wild in the interim. In the meantime the school system has convinced the bulk of four generations of people that safety=freedom and that government is the grantor of safety and therefore freedom.

  2. Republican, democrat, independent……it’s all irrelevant! Allow law enforcement to deal with the criminals!!

    • But that’s racist…….I have to stop reading town hall notes from Albany. Also almost forgot this one happened.

    • Not so fast Dennis…As always the Jim Crow Gun Control democRat Party is using criminals to justify Gun Control. Gun Control is all they are talking about and that indeed makes the Rat Party relevant counselor.

      No one should forget the Jim Crow Gun Control democRat Party fully supported the call to defund the police. The Rat Party uses violent criminals to carry their politics otherwise they would not have leg to stand on. If Gun Owners cut the chase and defined Gun Control as a history confirmed agenda rooted in racism and genocide then perhaps the democRat Gun Control balloon would be seen for what it is and deflate. Make no mistake about it…Gun Owner Silence helps the democRat Party get away with combining your Second Amendment Right with criminal acts. Furthermore, Law Enforcement cannot function with the Rat Party at the helm.

      You and most everyone on this forum should be up in arms about The Second Amendment being under constant attack by democRats and their beloved Gun Control rot which once again, History confirms Gun Control in any shape, matter or form is an agenda rooted in racism and genocide…That’s f-ing Chiseled.

      1) The Second Amendment is one thing.

      2) The criminal misuse of firearms, bricks, bats, knives, vehicles, etc. is another thing.

      3) History Confirms Gun Control in any shape, matter or form is a racist and nazi based Thing.

      • The Democrats are practicing Anarcho-Tyranny where some groups are allowed to commit crime to justify increasingly authoritarian measures. Anyone who suggests these groups need to be punished is labelled a racist and a bigot and is then subjected to cancel culture.

  3. I have a neighbor that is black, Jamaican, but was born and raised in London. What he sees American blacks he knows that his history and their history is merged and pretty much the same but he can’t understand their culture. Their culture is one of violence, stupidity, and victimhood. I was trying to describe to him why guns in some hands cause problems while another hands they do not. I told him that I could give a machine gun to a bunch of white redneck kids and the only thing they were going to do with it is shoot up some trees in the woods. I then told him I could give a single handgun to a group of black urban teens and within 6 months someone was going to die from a bullet that came from that handgun. He said he believed my statement was true. It’s not the gun, it’s the culture and the people that are causing the problems.

    • If you watch the “music” videos you see that “culture” on display. The men are “thugs” the women are “whores” and yes, that’s a lot of scare quotes but necessary. It makes money for the artists and brainwashed the children to grow up like that.

      • Tipper Gore wife of democrat vice president Al Gore from Tennessee, Created the Parents Music Resource Center. She believed that there were songs of such a sexual and violent nature. That they could cause harm in the thinking of young children.

        People with no children we’re telling mothers like Tipper Gore “they had no right to prevent children” from listening to whatever they chose to listen to.

        And around the same time I remember when Walmart was called out by these sanctimonious musicians because Walmart’s sold handguns. A private company, Walmart decided to stop selling handguns. And Walmart announced that they would no longer sell records with X-Rated lyrics, curse words, or suggestive material.

        And being a private company they certainly had the right to do just that. And being the largest retailer in the United States and seller of music, the music industry had to adapt. And edited versions of songs started to appear everywhere in the United States. And those same music artists were now complaining about being “censored”. But they still supported gun control. Except for their private armed security at concert venues. And at the music award shows.

        I remember very well that the Libertarians Liberals and the Left complained heavily about Walmart. Now here we are decades later. And the three L’s are now saying that it’s okay that private multibillion-dollar tech companies have the right to censor your Communications. They have the right to stop you from communicating. They have the right to stop your financial transaction with other the private individuals and companies.

        • tipper, head of the original ministry of filth. i remember zappa testifying in the senate (?), negativland creating a fake murder inspiration derived from a song on the helter stupid album (christianity is stupid), although the u2 lawsuit about their still haven’t found what i’m looking for cover ended in a cease and desist order. it all blew up with the dead kennedy’s biafra being acquitted of porn distribution (he inserted a poster of giger’s landscape xx into the frankenchrist lp and a left coast mom filed a complaint.
          fun times.

        • I will say I made the mistake of buying a Hollywood Undead Album at Walmart once. Probably 1/4 of the words were scratched out. I never made that mistake again. :rofl:

      • The point here is that too many buy into the thug life BS, both white and people of color, but they are a minority across the country. Most American blacks do not subscribe to it, there are many good people that actually are middle class or are working hard to get there.
        The same is true of Latinos and whites.
        Celebrate to good and indict the bad. The thug life is what we hate, not the color of their skin.

    • I would agree. I had a frank talk with a friend whose genealogy begins in Africa. He told me an interesting thought of his. Black America does not have a culture. When the slaves were brought from Africa (he traced his family line thru slaves to africa) there were many different groups mixed together. They didn’t mix well.
      So what is the black culture? Music would be my answer. Jazz, rap, etc…
      I wish I had the time or patience to go deeper into what he saw as the problem with black america from his POV.

      • “He told me an interesting thought of his. Black America does not have a culture.”

        He must be a shallow thinker.

        As just one example, BBQ. The slave owners gave their slaves what the slave owners thought was worthless cuts of meat. The slaves created a delicacy… 🙂

    • Officer Bill…Born and Raised in London? That’s like being born and raised in Gun Control so no telling what your Jamaican Man neighbor really thinks about you, your racial profiling-logic and your Gun.

      • You do realize that gun ownership is quite prevalent in the UK don’t you? You just have to be rich, rich the way my Jamaican neighbor is rich. He grew up around firearms and was in the British military once he graduated from Cambridge. The man is an attorney in Dallas Texas and works for arguably the most prestigious law firm in the state where he is a senior partner. What I was relaying or his words and thoughts. Not my own. When I relay my own thoughts they will be cruder and will be told from a rookie cops perspective because that’s when and where I developed my opinions.

    • Thomas Sowell has some books and lectures on this. Black urban culture is surprisingly descended from southern white “cracker” culture. Which in turn has its roots in north and northeast England and Scotland.

    • Roger that. But the Lamestream Media and the Dummycrats don’t want to hear that “inconvenient truth”, they’d simply label it “racist”. Their “Dernier Cri” to everything that TRUMPS their nonsense.

  4. The utopians are irrational people. They are incapable of facing the truth. And they are dishonest because it is the policies they have supported that created the situation and now find themselves in. Right these people off. Do not go to Milwaukee. They have chosen to vote for these destructive policies. And they have chosen to not be involved in the political process. But they have chosen to stay and live in the city.

    And they are liars. Because the city council and mayor after armed security guards paid for by the taxpayers.

  5. Some people are animals therefore all people should be restricted.
    Weak logic of tyrants to excuse their failures.

  6. The guilty parties must have been soccer Mom’s, Blue Collar Workers and the Professional class. I wonder how many dentists were involved, as in my experience, they like to hurt people. Those evil suburban middle class folks need to be stopped from killing people, take away their guns.

    Wow, I looked at the few pictures online of the event and some racist journalist, has large groups of African (Black) Americans Circled in the photos. Next they are going to blame the grass roots social clubs that provided young men with guidance from male role models and offer their members employment too. These clubs are called “Street Gangs” by the Racist White establishment. I’m shocked they are trying to divert the blame on to the poor and the oppressed, when its clearly the fault of society as a whole.

    Well the good news is that Legal Concealed Carry holders can’t carry firearms in restaurants that serve alcohol or in stores that sell it. With a permit, that violation gets you a $500 fine and 30 days in jail. So if you want to take your family for a night on the town or go to a rocery store, best to leave your gun at home for everyone’s safety.

    The good news is they have less police on the streets, so the chance of the police roving murder squads targeting you is less, so everyone will be safer. Great job Milwaukee, it not the state or city’s fault and certainly not the people who did the shootings, its all those Bible Thumping Gun Owners who are at Fault.

    • Golly who do they blame in Milwaukee??? Chiraq?!?(Chicago blames Indiana). Why is much of Wisconsin “not that bad”? Could it be the criminals who live there? Dims in power? Baby mama’s boyz?

    • Wut???

      I hope there was a thought in there, somewhere. Go back and try to find it.

  7. I wish the author would’ve shared some of the ‘Common Sense’ legislation they are referring to. I doubt that there was much, if any that would’ve made a difference. However, I am not up on all the legislation being tossed about across the nation.

    • I keep asking, what law do you suggest that isn’t already law or a clear violation of Constitutional law that would have prevented any of these shootings?

      I never get a straight answer.

      • But there already exist, and have since the beginning laws that would end this murder and wanton shooting, IF theyd be enfroced.
        Surprise surprise, but MURDER and SHOOtiNG/whacking/cutting/bashing/reaking/burning people is A CRIME. How one chooses to effect the harm is irrelvant.
        No need to try and control the specific tools put to use to harm others. had those clowns gone after each other with cricket or baseball bats or hockey sticks, they’d STILL be breaking the law. Arrest for and prosecute THOSE crimes.

        Interesting mostly forgotten history: in London a few years back a certain “religion of pieces” were going about ssaulting, attakcingl killing,maiming at will whomever they could find. The local intended victims made an informed decision to prepare themselves to resist and fight back. Of course, they could not get guns, as those itemos are in the main prohibited to all in Merrie Auld. So they took up suitable tools that were availab.e Longish kitchen knives were selling out at the stores. So they removed them, no longer on offer. I suppose Mama now must use scissors, paring knives (three inch blades) Withthose defensive tools off market, someone noticed that within a weeks time, some SIX THOUSAND bats had been purchased in that section of London, many of them purchased online and delivered into the area. They ended that “trend”. Hockey sticks then followed, same result.
        Amusing how government’s response to any attempt to prepare one’s self to defend one’s life and home is always to deny possession/purchase of items suitable for such defense.

        Funny thing, America’s beginnings are rooted in the same phenomenon. When the Regulars were sent out by General Gage his orders were to disarm the colonists. Take their powder and shot. Deny them the ability to defend themselves and homes. Lexington and COncord were Gage’s fourth and least successful “Powder Raid”. His orders, though his commanders, to “lay down your arms and disperse” were only half obeyed.. they did NOT lay down their arms. And as they attempted to walk off the field the Regular Army fired a ragged volley that took fifteen men of Lexington out of action, eight of them forever. By the end of that day forty percent of Gages officers were out of action and at least a quarter of the foot sent out the night before. So the war started with a failed attempt to DISARM the colonials.

        Still going on, if the head poohbahs inplaces such as described above, get their way. But they wil not. OH they may obtain a grudging and passive charade of compliance Today’s wannabe tyrants in these holes of cities are reading off the same script Gage did and will have the same results.

    • Daniel, you already know that “common sense gun legislation” is the same old collection of “feel-good, do-something” laws that
      1) are ineffective against criminals, and
      2) only infringe on the rights of lawful citizens.

      • In short, we have all the guns you have none. Therefor you NEED us so sit down and shut up. WE are in control (NOTTTTTT)

  8. The consensus is that no more than five to ten people in a hundred who die by gunfire are any loss to society. These people fight small wars amongst themselves. It would seem a valid social service to keep them well-supplied with ammunition.

    • Effectively that is what we do here in NY. Cops do their best to tie the weapon to the criminal but it is an uphill battle to get the criminal into prison well above and beyond what due process should afford for protection. Oh but it’s the fault of anyone who follows the law that we have gang violence.

    • By not running socialist utopias where thugs or their girlfriends can acquire firearms through legal or illegal means and transport them illegally into said socialist utopia. But more nuance to it but good enough for state work.

  9. I bought three firearms over the last two days. I don’t recall any Republicans coercing me.

    • Gadsden Flag,

      /begin_sarcasm

      I believe that your recent firearm purchase has elevated you to “bitter clinger” status.

      Is the shame associated with that status moving you to disavow firearm ownership and turn-in all your firearms for destruction?

      /end_sarcasm

      • sorry, but no. The ONLY shame he possesses is the shame of ONLY having purhased three in the past two days. He is busy about repenting of his self-limited ways.

        • Tionico, you’re right, but I only had $2000 cash on me. I don’t do credit. I deal in $100 bills. To redeem myself I ordered a Wilson CQB Elite at Mallard’s in Crystal River. If any TTAG family pass through I highly recommend you stop. I also bought a mint, vintage Ruger 10/22 International. Except for no box/papers, it’s new/unfired. Not for long. And for the non-FUDDs; they are well stocked with MSRs and nondescript plastic pistols.

  10. quote—————–Bowen denounced what he called “the dangerous opposition from Republicans to common sense gun safety legislation [that] has allowed guns to continue to flow into the hands of those who shouldn’t have them.”——quote

    One hundred percent correct. Republican blockage of Universal Background Checks and Safe Storage Laws let criminals and nut cases buy all the heavy firepower they want via second hand gun sales with no vetting and stolen guns that were robbed in quickie smash and grab robberies both in gun stores and in private dwellings. No other civilized nation allows such absolute madness.

    • For “universal background checks” to work, they need to be accompanied by a “national firearm registry.”

      Do you support such a registry?

      • quote——————-For “universal background checks” to work, they need to be accompanied by a “national firearm registry.”————-quote

        False: And here is why

        If the law would read that you would get a 20 year prison sentence, lose your job, lose your assets, lose your right to own a firearm for life and pay a $250,000 fine not many people would not obey the law and go through a government vetting system to sell any of their firearms which would be nothing more than a strengthening of the already existing Brady Bill which again has not registered guns.

        • quote——— False: and here is why ——–

          False: and here is why. You believe that the guns criminals get are 2nd hand market, but many criminals get their guns from friends who can pass background checks. You also believe that unlocked guns are the only guns stolen, but any safe can be cracked relatively quickly by anyone with some basic preparation.

        • quote——————-For “universal background checks” to work, they need to be accompanied by a “national firearm registry.”————-quote

          False: And here is why

          If the law would read that you would get a 20 year prison sentence, lose your job, lose your assets, lose your right to own a firearm for life and pay a $250,000 fine not many people would not obey the law and go through a government vetting system to sell any of their firearms which would be nothing more than a strengthening of the already existing Brady Bill which again has not registered guns

          All garbage ideas for the following reasons:

          1) Getting a 20 year prison sentence, lose your job, lose your assets, lose your right to own a firearm for life and pay a $250,000 for someone stealing your firearm is a punishment that doesn’t fit the crime. Even if you openly gave it to a criminal, and the criminal never did anything with it for their rest of their lives except keep it in their home for self defense – the punishment would not fit the crime. Punishments SHOULD fit the crime. People obtaining weapons shouldn’t even be a crime. People murdering other people should be a very serious crime. You shouldn’t punish someone for a very serious crime that “might” happen. You should punish them for a serious crime that does happen. Unfortunately, this means someone has to die before any punishment is delivered. Now I know you don’t like this, because it doesn’t fit your pre-crime authoritarianist ideas, but honestly, you already support this for other crimes. There are crimes that you believe shouldn’t merit a 20 year sentence and a 250 grand fine, I guarantee it. And justice is measured with a scale. Justice is a blindfolded woman with a sword in one hand, and a scale in the other. Giving someone 20 years in prison and a 250 grand fine for giving a firearm to a loved one or friend that was once a criminal, is not a balanced scale.

          2) You are asking for a strict and severe punishment for a law that can’t be enforced. The Brady bill would do nothing to stop private transactions between people. The only true way to enforce it, is a registry.

          3) Some ex-criminals need guns. They need them for defense. Defense of their homes. Defense of their wife and children. Defense of their own lives. This is the reality. To deny them this basic right while everyone else enjoys it, is cruel. Cruel to their wives, cruel to their children. It is not a balanced scale. They should go to prison, and receive their punishment. After society feels they have punished them enough, they should be free.

        • Your plan sounds as effective as micro stamping.

          Does nothing to stop crime being committed.

        • Take note all the senseless diatribes about criminals are an end run around the truth of my post and that is that I was speaking of the bulk of guns sold by law abiding citizens.

          Yes law abiding citizens would indeed obey the law (Universal Back Ground Checks and Safe Storage Laws because of its penalties thereby cutting down on the sea of guns available to criminals and nut cases.

          Yes criminals do not obey the law but I was not speaking of criminals obeying any law rather I was speaking of reducing the sea of guns available to them via the sale by law abiding citizens.

        • Dacian, buddy. Many guns used by criminals are bought by their friends. These aren’t law abiding friends. These are just friends who haven’t been caught yet. They buy guns for their friends who HAVE been caught and then file off the serial numbers. A Universal Background Check would do nothing to cut down on the “sea of guns available to criminals and nut cases”.

          Furthermore, how would you enforce it? Guns bought before a UBC is passed would be exempt right? So anytime one of these guns came up, even if the criminal said “I bought it from Tim in Texas”… when the cops show up, I can either claim ignorance (there would be no proof I ever had the gun without it being registered) or even if there was proof I used to own the gun, I could just claim the sale took place before the UBC was passed.

          Law abiding citizens already aren’t the primary trafficker of guns into the hands of criminals. Roughly 80% of all gun related murders in the US are gang on gang related violence. You actually believe that someone like me is providing them a “sea” of guns to fuel their illicit activities?

          “BuT wHaT abOUt tHe NuTJoBs?” you may ask. This guy bought the gun he used from a dealer and completed a background check.

          I’ll tell you what would happen pal. This proposal of yours would do nothing to curb gun violence and you’d be back on here demanding more restrictions. I know this because that’s what happened the first time around with background checks. “If we just run background checks at the dealer, we’ll have fewer guns in the hands of criminals”. Well it didn’t help so now it’s “If we jsut run background checks for private sales, we’ll have fewer guns in the hands of criminals”. Except that won’t do anything either and you’ll be back next time asking for a registry. You can try to pretend otherwise, but you’re either a liar or a fool or both

        • No, dacian the stupid, the only people who wouldn’t obey the law would be CRIMINALS, who ALREADY don’t obey the laws, you pathetic @$$bag. So . . . drug laws eliminated drugs, amirite??? Prohibition eliminated alcohol, correct??

          dacian the drooling moron, “laws” are effective . . . wait for it . . . wait for it . . . ONLY against people who OBEY LAWS. By definition, criminals don’t obey laws. Your entire premise is errant horse apples, and if you had the wit God gifted retarded baby ducks, you would realize that.

          Perhaps if you’d actually GOTTEN that vaunted “education” of which you constantly brag, you might have become acquainted with the concept of “logic” (look it up). As it is, since you apparently flunked out of high school, you’re just . . . stupid, uneducated, ahistorical, illiterate, illogical, irrational, ignorant, and basically thick as a brick.

          Others have mentioned it, in re Buffalo, but you are a SCARY likely perpetrator of a mass shooting. Dumb as a box o’ rocks, unfulfilled in life, desperate for validation, narcissistic, and certain of your own rectitude – what school you gonna shoot up, dacian the potential mass murderer?

        • dacian the stupid,

          “Yes criminals do not obey the law but I was not speaking of criminals obeying any law . . . ”

          Wow, you ALMOST got it, dacian the stupid! “criminals don’t obey the law”. Good start.

          So, criminals won’t steal guns from law-abiding citizens who jump through the gummint hoops to acquire them legally?? I’m sorry, where is that written??

          AT LEAST 300 million guns in the US, already. Even if not one single gun was sold from here until eternity, criminals couldn’t acquire guns???

          Many people keep guns in safes (even before idiot state legislatures started ‘mandating’ it). You famously claim that you can access YOUR gun safe (as if you actually had one) in one second. BFD, I could “access” your gun safe in 30 seconds, max, if I chose to do so.

          I am beginning to understand the depths of your lunacy, dacian the stupid . . . you think everyone else is as dumb as you are. Pro tip: My dog, who is sweet, but not too bright, is smarter than you are dacian the stupid. Boy, you are dumber than Balaam’s off ass.

    • Heavy firepower? You don’t even know what heavy firepower is. No it isn’t something you struggle to pick up either.

      UBC would work off the same system as the current background checks that allow disqualified people still and erroneously flag legit buyers. More so the guy selling out your garage wouldn’t be bothered to perform them. If he did he would be incriminating himself as he is disqualified from possessing a firearm.

      Try a novel idea out, prosecute smash and grab thieves and if guilty sentence them. And how about doing the same for those stealing from trains too? Or would that be racists, sexists, or whatever else you claim is not acceptable?

      Your problem is you forget individuals are responsible for what they do, not everyone or everything else. When you fail to hold individuals responsible you have a break from social discipline. And because you failed on individual responsibility you are part of the issue.

      • quote—————–Try a novel idea out, prosecute smash and grab thieves and if guilty sentence them.———-quote

        That does not bring the dead victims back to life. Yes they should be prosecuted but preventing criminals from getting guns in the first place is a concept any sane person can fathom without any problem. Paranoid people are incapable of sane reasoning.

        • The victims are dead as a direct result of the policies that you espouse.

          Nothing in your rantings would have prevented criminals from obtaining weapons.

        • Here’s an insight you clearly never thought about, dacian the stupid . . . NOTHING brings dead people back to life. Including idiot “common sense gun safety” laws. Perhaps we should try empowering people NOT to be victims, eh??

          Oh, yeah, but you are incapable of ratiocination, aren’t you. Onanism is the height of your achievements.

        • “That does not bring the dead victims back to life. Yes they should be prosecuted but preventing criminals from getting guns in the first place is a concept any sane person can fathom without any problem. Paranoid people are incapable of sane reasoning.”

          You cannot make a crime victim whole regardless of the offense against them. That is a stupid argument on your part.

          How do you keep disqualified persons from obtaining a firearm? Drugs are illegal, yet they show up in prisons. The GCA was supposed to be the cure all if we just gave up a little of freedom. Then the Brady system was supposed to be the best way if we just dropped our right to be innocent until proven guilty. Now you ask we further entertain another layer of bureaucracy so you can feel safer?

          We aren’t paranoid, you are. The far right boogeyman is not under your bed and is not going to kill you.

    • quote—————–Bowen denounced what he called “the dangerous opposition from Republicans to common sense gun safety legislation [that] has allowed guns to continue to flow into the hands of those who shouldn’t have them.”——quote

      One hundred percent correct. Republican blockage of Universal Background Checks and Safe Storage Laws let criminals and nut cases buy all the heavy firepower they want via second hand gun sales with no vetting and stolen guns that were robbed in quickie smash and grab robberies both in gun stores and in private dwellings. No other civilized nation allows such absolute madness.

      100% incorrect. The root cause isn’t their freedom, or their ability to obtain a firearm. The root cause is their desire to kill people. Why aren’t you addressing it Dacian?

      A portion of the criminal population that obtain guns, don’t kill people with them. So you have a group of people that are recidivists that are getting back into bad behavior with firearms resulting in murders, and you have a group of people that are obtaining firearms for defense and not partaking in murders. In other words, your explanation sucks. It is not a concise determination of the root cause, and it’s crappy advice. You are blaming the freedom to obtain a firearm, rather than the root cause of the murders.

  11. Hes right , criminals and people with violence on their minds shouldn’t have gunms.
    That’s one reason I carry one.

  12. Criminals don’t require Republican policies to be armed. They do that fine all on their own. Just check out all the shootings in Democrat run cities. While they used to blame all violence (and everything else) on President Trump, they never even mention the possibility of blaming the current President for the current problems.

  13. Gun Laws-all of them -and the policies Democrats (and too many ” Republicans”) push beget criminals

  14. Blame the Republicans, or Trump or current laws or neighboring states, or whoever. But don’t blame the criminal who commits the crime, or the Thug Life culture that has become prevalent in so many inner city neighborhoods. Don’t blame the black market trade in illegally obtained/stolen guns. The 2 most common methods reported that criminals get weapons is to either get someone who can pass a background check to purchase a weapon. Or buy a stolen gun from their fellow criminals or just steal it themselves. Several states have mandatory BC on all sales, Whether from a dealer or from a private seller. But they have as high or higher crime than neighboring states with less restrictions.
    1 of the above commenters is absolutely correct in how it’s the cultural differences rather than the laws. Give the local kids out here in flyover country access to a gun and ammo, and they will shoot a few squirrels or rabbits, or shoot up a couple fence posts or trees, but give the same firearm to a couple inner city kids and someone will be shot in short order.

  15. Arrrrrrrgh…there is that phrase again: “ common sense gun safety”! These shills use the words “common sense” to deflect any criticism from the unConstitutional and not common sense approach they advocate to deal with an inanimate object instead of the prep criminal.

    • So, NTexas, you are advocating for the death penalty for shoplifting??

      Oh, and . . . STOP F***ing SHOUTING AT US, YOU @$$HOLE!!!!!!!!

  16. Upside down and backwards

    Sometimes, it really doesn’t matter if it’s on purpose or accidental. The result is the same. If results even matter.

  17. Guns exist. In the US, there are AT LEAST 300 million of them (my personal guesstimate is around 450-500 million). They aren’t going anywhere. If Beta “Fake Mexican” O’Jerk actually got his “yea, we’re coming for you AR-15, your AK47” wet dream enacted, he’d end up getting MAYBE 5% of them.

    News flash – with a Benjie in my pocket and a spare hour, I can pick up all the materials I need to build a functional firearm in an hour, with a visit to my local Home Depot. I could acquire a 3D printer and/or a CNC milling machine (they have some pretty good ones online for prices most could afford) and build a gun from scratch any weekend. What you SHOULD be worried about, if you were rational, is that I could take the same Benjie and weekend, visit a few garden supply stores and feed stores, and make a nerve gas weapon or an IED.

    YOU CAN’T ‘LEGISLATE’ KNOWLEDGE. Humans imagined and invented these devices. Having been shown the way, anyone but a drooling idiot like dacian the stupid or MajorStupidity can follow their lead.

    Ban guns; see if I give a shit.

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