“An exclusive analysis of data from the 50 largest local police departments in the United States shows that police shoot Americans more than twice as often as previously known,” news.vice.com reports . . .
Vice reports that these top 50 police departments — representing “148,000 police officers who serve more than 54 million Americans” — shot at 4,381 people from 2010 to 2016.
For the math-challenged (myself included), that’s 14.60 people shot at per department per year. As the majority of those citizens who faced flying lead from their local po-po survived, that’s not exactly a genocidal campaign.
Nor ethnic cleansing. But you don’t need me to tell you that today’s anti-cop rhetoric focuses on race.
The fine print on the chart above tells us that Vice reduced the sample size to 31 police departments. Also worth noting: Vice’s chart lists police shootings per 100,000 people.
This excerpt from washingtpost.com explains why Vice’s race card agenda forced them to adjust for population, rather than list the raw numbers (which would have created a significantly different chart from the one above):
In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings, and the project continues this year. As of Sunday (July 5 2016), 1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, and 381 were black (and 382 were of another or unknown race).
After stoking anti-police bias and racial animus — intimating that racism accounts for the fact that predominantly black communities experience more police-involved shootings than predominantly white communities — Vice plays the ultimate victim card. The police are shooting unarmed blacks!
Now we’re down to sample size of 24 police departments (out of the aforementioned 17,985 U.S. total) and wouldn’t you know it? Latinos are the ethnic group most often shot by cops while unarmed in this survey. And?
And Vice is forced to mention the reality of the situation — albeit while casting doubt on any interpretation that would undermine their underlying assumption that racist police are targeting and shooting blacks.
Police officers and some academics say shootings reflect local crime rates or how often police come into contact with certain groups, not racial bias. In their view, it’s not fair to look at use of force by population alone.
Nick Selby, a Texas police detective and author of “In Corntext: Understanding Police Killings of Unarmed Civilians,” said it’s important to take into account the socioeconomic factors underlying crime and policing as well as the circumstances of each encounter.
“Deadly force has a disproportionate effect on nonwhite people, that’s true, but nonwhite people disproportionately engage in behavior that is criminal and dangerous,” Selby said. (Blacks and Hispanics are arrested at higher rates than whites for both violent and nonviolent crimes, but the researchisunclear on whether they are more likely to commit them.) (emphasis ours)
And there you have it: context. Yay!
The article also skates over the reasons cops shoot citizens: the officer believes the possible perp poses an imminent, credible threat of grievous bodily harm or death to police or innocent life.
A unarmed perp can be shot for trying to beat someone with his or her fists. For attempting to escape the scene of a violent crime. For going for an officer’s gun. For driving a car at an officer. And more.
Vice works hard to cast doubt on the possibility that the cops who fired on unarmed black suspects were justifed by neglecting to mention the above circumstances, peppering their article with heart-tugging YouTube videos of unarmed blacks shot by cops in dubious or — in the case above — unknown circumstances, and “answering” reasonable explanations for the stats with anti-cop quotes like this:
Bruce Franks Jr., a protester in Ferguson who now serves as a St. Louis representative in the Missouri legislature, said cops in his city shoot first and come up with reasons later. St. Louis had the highest per capita rate of police shootings among the 50 departments we analyzed but provided scant details for shootings that happened after 2014. (A spokeswoman for the department said all shootings were investigated fairly.)
“There doesn’t have to be a gun involved. We see these cases where somebody has a cell phone or somebody makes the wrong move,” Franks said. “There’s a million reasons they give so it ends up being justified.”
And there are a million reasons why Vice wants its readers to think racist white cops are assassinating unarmed blacks as a matter of course. Well, at least one: to promote a more powerful centralized government.
Hey, Vice. Be careful what you wish for.
Vice went down the tubes when they started partnering with AJ+ aka the Quatari ministry of foreign propaganda.
Not mentioned is that the large urban areas these police departments are located in have a higher than average percentage of black residents.
Or, you know, the fact that blacks commit substantially more crimes.
Be careful when telling the truth these days, you might be compelled to lose your job or home (or both) because your objective observation hurt someone’s feelings.
Your safe then lying racist
Heres one of many peer reviewed studies indisputably documenting this reality (juxtapose this with yall GED racist liars repeating your evidence-free excuse):
“There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
The documented reality of police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks remains no matter how many excuses yall dishonest ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad nauseam:
“The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans…”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
You’re still not safe, though, you lying POS.
The actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot white folks IS explained away not only by citing the fact that black folks commit far and away much, much more crime than any other demographic in the U.S., but racists like you have scared them into shooting more white folks.
Here’s an actual peer-reviewed study, one of many, that indisputably document the exact polar opposite of the delusion you oh-so-desperately want to (but CAN’T and WON’T) call reality (juxtapose this with y’all high sk00l drop-out racist liars repeating your evidence-free excuse):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-a-massive-new-study-on-police-shootings-of-whites-and-blacks-is-so-controversial/?utm_term=.f40fd61131f0
The actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot unarmed white folks remains no matter how many excuses y’all dishonest, ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad-infinitum:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/black-suspects-more-likely-to-be-shot-by-black-cop/
Black officers are more likely to shoot black suspects than white cops — and both white and black cops are still more likely to shoot white suspects than black suspects, regardless.
Stop lying. Stop voting DemoKKKrat. Stop projecting your clearly-demonstrated anti-white racism onto the rest of us. Stop being literally everything you’re pretending to hate.
That’s what I was thinking. By limiting the study to the largest 31 or 24 PDs you’re probably taking a sliver of the population that is 60 or 70% black. The Grundy Center, Iowa PD is probably far more likely to shoot a white than any other race. But it’s not nearly as large as the Chicago PD or the Detroit PD.
The Grundy Center, Iowa PD are 100% more likely to shoot a cow than in Chicago, too.
Is that a black or brown cow?
I should confess, I grew up in the next county over and picked Grundy Center because it’s the most podunk sounding small town name I could think of in the state. To be fair, it’s close enough to Waterloo / Cedar Falls to be somewhat of an exurb. Now 17 miles away lies Eldora, which was far too Latin sounding to use, but a decade and maybe a half ago or so a big hailstorm went through and to this day half the homes are boarded up and abandoned, since no one’s going to put a $50,000 insurance check into a home that will be worth $15,000 once the work is done.
They also didn’t share any data on the racial make up of these police departments. The biggest 50 departments in the US are going to be in larger cities, where the cops are more likely to be…black!
So those black cops are shooting black suspects, because they’re racist?
Cherry picking this late in the season will undoubtedly result in something rotten.
What crime did Charles Kinsey commit?
Hey lying ignoramus I already corrected your bullsheet excuse!
The documented reality of police disporportionately shooting unarmed black folks is NOT explained away by citing the fact that black folks disproportionately commit crimes (no matter how many times you rignorant dishonest racists repeat this bullsheet).
Heres one of many peer reviewed studies indisputably documenting this reality (juxtapose this with yall GED racist liars repeating your evidence-free excuse):
“There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
The documented reality of police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks remains no matter how many excuses yall dishonest ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad nauseam:
“The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans…”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
Hey, you lying POS. We have already corrected your bullshit excuse.
The actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot white folks IS explained away not only by citing the fact that black folks commit far and away much, much more crime than any other demographic in the U.S., but racists like you have scared them into shooting more white folks.
Here’s an actual peer-reviewed study, one of many, that indisputably document the exact polar opposite of the delusion you oh-so-desperately want to (but CAN’T and WON’T) call reality (juxtapose this with y’all high sk00l drop-out racist liars repeating your evidence-free excuse):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-a-massive-new-study-on-police-shootings-of-whites-and-blacks-is-so-controversial/?utm_term=.f40fd61131f0
The actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot unarmed white folks remains no matter how many excuses y’all dishonest, ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad-infinitum:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/black-suspects-more-likely-to-be-shot-by-black-cop/
Stop lying. Stop voting DemoKKKrat. Stop projecting your clearly-demonstrated anti-white racism onto the rest of us. Stop being literally everything you’re pretending to hate.
And the PEER-REVIEWED STUDY I cited is the reality documented by such studies.
By sharp contrast Uncle Roland Fryers claim (which contradict the legitimate research which documents that police disproportionately shoot [and otherwise use unwarranted violence against] black folks) are part of a WORKING PAPER which is NOT PEER REVIEWED. AND Fryers claim has been critiqued and exposed as significantly flawed both theoretically and methodologically (these problems are obviously beyond your meager intellectual capacity [the evidence for this is your post(s)]).
Youre welcome lying dunce
And the PEER-REVIEWED STUDY that I cite, not you, is the actual reality documented by such studies.
Compare this with your demonstrably fraudulent claim (that contradicts actually legitimate research which documented the actual reality that police are more likely to shoot white folks) are what has actually been critiqued and exposed as fundamentally-flawed and not worth the ink or paper used to print it (these problems obviously being beyond your demonstrated lack of intellectual capacity altogether [and the evidence for this is your posts not ours]).
You’re welcome, lying POS.
So Nanashi in response to robert faragos racist article you remarked:
“Not mentioned is… the fact that blacks commit substantially more crimes.
But in fact it is as usual mentioned:
“…nonwhite people disproportionately engage in behavior that is criminal and dangerous,” Selby said.”
http://dev.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/12/robert-farago/cops-are-shooting-unarmed-black-suspects-and/#comment-3753711
And you never miss an opportunity to reiterate this fact (always decontextualied and with the racist implication that black folks are inherently criminal), but you never acknowledge the documented reality that this disproportionate crime rate does NOT account for/explain away the fact that police are disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks:
“There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
And endlessly repeating this bullsheet excuse of black crime rates is not changing the documented reality:
“The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans…”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
Now that Ive shown you the evidence, you can go back to pretending this evidence doesnt exist, and continue spewing bullsheet in this racist echo chamber… which is your punishment btw, to be you and experience the world through the parochial prism of your “mind”…
I wish you a long life
So, liberal racist dunce, in response to Robert Farago’s non-racist article, you remark:
“All crackers are racist who disagree with me.” That, and only that, is the summation of the entirety of your commentary thus far.
And you never miss an opportunity to reiterate this lie (and always in the context of mere disagreement with your anti-white racist narrative without a single shred of evidence of the racism you claim is rampant here), but you never acknowledge the actual documented reality that the disproportionate crime rates DO fully account for the fact that police are actually more likely to shoot white folks than black folks:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-a-massive-new-study-on-police-shootings-of-whites-and-blacks-is-so-controversial/?utm_term=.f40fd61131f0
The actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot white folks than black folks remains no matter how many lies pig-ignorant and dishonest racists like you concoct and repeat them ad-nauseum:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/black-suspects-more-likely-to-be-shot-by-black-cop/
Black officers are more likely to shoot black suspects than white cops — and both white and black cops are still more likely to shoot white suspects than black suspects, regardless.
Now that I have shown you the evidence, being that you’re in no position to be telling anyone about anything whatsoever, you can go back to pretending that evidence exists to support your knowingly-false claims, and continue spewing racist bullshit in your racist echo chambers. Oh, and that’s your punishment, by the way, and not ours — to be you and experience the world through the delusional lens of your “mind.”
Don’t worry. Your lifespan will thankfully comport to the appropriately low capacity of your “intellect.”
Stop lying. Stop voting DemoKKKrat. Stop projecting your clearly-demonstrated anti-white racism onto the rest of us. Stop being literally everything you’re pretending to hate.
So Nanashi in response to robert faragos racist article you remarked:
“Not mentioned is… the fact that blacks commit substantially more crimes.
But in fact it is as usual mentioned:
“…nonwhite people disproportionately engage in behavior that is criminal and dangerous,” Selby said.”
http://dev.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/12/robert-farago/cops-are-shooting-unarmed-black-suspects-and/#comment-3753711
And you never miss an opportunity to reiterate this fact (always decontextualied and with the racist implication that black folks are inherently criminal), but you never acknowledge the documented reality that this disproportionate crime rate does NOT account for/explain away the fact that police are disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks:
“There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
And endlessly repeating this bullsheet excuse of black crime rates is not changing the documented reality:
“The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans…”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
Now that Ive shown you the evidence, you can go back to pretending this evidence doesnt exist, and continue spewing bullsheet in this racist echo chamber… which is your punishment btw, to be you all day everyday and experience your paltry life filter through the parochial prism of your puny “mind”
So Nanashi in response to robert faragos racist article you remarked:
“Not mentioned is… the fact that blacks commit substantially more crimes.
But in fact it is as usual mentioned:
“…nonwhite people disproportionately engage in behavior that is criminal and dangerous,” Selby said.”
http://dev.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/12/robert-farago/cops-are-shooting-unarmed-black-suspects-and/#comment-3753711
And you never miss an opportunity to reiterate this fact (always decontextualied and with the racist implication that black folks are inherently criminal), but you never acknowledge the documented reality that this disproportionate crime rate does NOT account for/explain away the fact that police are disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks:
“There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
And endlessly repeating this bullsheet excuse of black crime rates is not changing the documented reality:
“The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans…”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
Now that Ive shown you the evidence, you can go back to pretending this evidence doesnt exist, and continue spewing bullsheet in this racist echo chamber… which is your punishment btw, to be you and experience life and the world only through your parochial prism
“1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, and 381 were black (and 382 were of another or unknown race).”
There’s only one solution that will satisfy SJWs and BLMs — the cops just have to shoot more white people to balance the books.
Statisticians can accomplish the same thing bloodlessly simply by reclassifying some blacks and unknowns as “white.”
Modern, open-minded academics will just allow everybody to go full Dolezal by choosing their own race.
And gungrabbers will claim that all the dead were children.
Rachel Dolezal is back, and she’s hawking the book she (had ghostwritten?) about her ‘struggle’ as a Black woman, ‘In Full Color: Finding My Place in a Black and White World’.
Some nice pics here of pre-Black Rachel :
https://nypost.com/2017/03/23/rachel-dolezal-explores-her-blackness-in-bizarre-memoir/
And here’s a recent article on her new career, being an ‘Artisanal lollipop saleswoman’ :
https://nypost.com/2017/11/15/rachel-dolezal-is-now-an-artisanal-lollipop-saleswoman/
http://racheldolezal.com/index.php/homemade-lollipops/
I can’t wait for Elizabeth Warren’s book, “My Life as a Cherokee Squaw.” Available soon at a science fiction book store near you, or online at Amazon.
You wouldnt think it was funny if people you cared about were being disproportionate shot by police while unarmed, but being the pos racist moron that you are you yuck it up about this disgraceful situation.
Heres one of many peer reviewed studies indisputably documenting this reality (juxtapose this with yall GED racist liars repeating your evidence-free excuse):
“There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
The documented reality of police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks remains no matter how many excuses yall dishonest ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad nauseam:
“The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans…”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
You clearly do think it’s funny, though, seeing as how you’ve constantly lied about every conceivable aspect of this alleged “problem.” But, being the racist, lying POS imbecile that you are, you yuck it up and try to reverse reality itself.
The actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot white folks IS explained away not only by citing the fact that black folks commit far and away much, much more crime than any other demographic in the U.S., but racists like you have scared them into shooting more white folks.
Here’s an actual peer-reviewed study, one of many, that indisputably document the exact polar opposite of the delusion you oh-so-desperately want to (but CAN’T and WON’T) call reality (juxtapose this with y’all high sk00l drop-out racist liars repeating your evidence-free excuse):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-a-massive-new-study-on-police-shootings-of-whites-and-blacks-is-so-controversial/?utm_term=.f40fd61131f0
The actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot unarmed white folks remains no matter how many excuses y’all dishonest, ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad-infinitum:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/black-suspects-more-likely-to-be-shot-by-black-cop/
Black officers are more likely to shoot black suspects than white cops — and both white and black cops are still more likely to shoot white suspects than black suspects, regardless.
Stop lying. Stop voting DemoKKKrat. Stop projecting your clearly-demonstrated anti-white racism onto the rest of us. Stop being literally everything you’re pretending to hate.
You know, it’s interesting that they treat “Latino” as separate from “Black” and “White”. This is not the methodology used by the FBI in their Uniform Crime Report. They consider “Hispanic” to be a separate axis that can include any race in theory. I wonder what these charts would look like if “Latino” were collapsed back into the other races as the FBI does?
It is interesting that the civilians in this survey are classified by race, but the cops are only classified as BLUE. What is the demographic breakdown of th officers that shot? Predominantly areas with a high population of blacks or Hispanics have police departments with a high number of black and Hispanic officers. So to say that a bunch of WHITE racist cops are responsible for each of these shootings is wrong. Also, “unarmed” doesn’t mean that there wasn’t a deadly threat there like hands, feat, car, physical size difference, etcetera. There is so much more data that needs to be analyzed to objectively see what’s really happening. I think violent mental illness is playing a more significant role as well.
Hell, as dishonest as Vice is, all they mean, most likely, when they say “unarmed” is that the one shot didn’t have a firearm. Apparently, according to what I’m sure is the criteria Vice used, having a large knife, baseball bat, brass knuckles, brick, hatchet, etc still counts as being “unarmed”
Ballpark, according to FBI UCR data, the rate of black-perpetrated violent crime is eight times the rate of white-perpetrated violent crime. In that context, it is remarkable that the rate of police-involved shootings of black suspects is a mere 2-2.5 the rate of police-involved shootings of white suspects.
So DipstickBennett the issue is NOT “police-involved(sic) shootings of black suspects”, the issue is police shooting UNARMED black folks disproportionately.
Understand?
AND there is nothing admirable in the extent of the polices disproportionate shooting of unarmed black folks as you stupidly/dishonestly marvel. You see this well-known (to non-racist non-ignoramuses) peer reviewed study documents the reality that differential crime rates do not account for the police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks (juxtapose this with yall GED racist liars endlessly repeating this evidence-free excuse):
“There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
The documented reality of police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks remains no matter how many excuses yall dishonest ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad nauseam:
“The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans…”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
Sorry to hold you up Chip Bennett, Ill let you get back Stormfront and Makin Murica Great Agin : D
“Ballpark, according to FBI UCR data, the rate of black-perpetrated violent crime is eight times the rate of white-perpetrated violent crime. In that context, it is remarkable that the rate of police-involved shootings of black suspects is a mere 2-2.5 the rate of police-involved shootings of white suspects.”
So, DipstickLiberal, the actual issue IS “police-involved(sic) shootings of black suspects,” even though the reality is that white folks are for a fact more likely to be shot than black folks.
Do you understand that? Rhetorical question, as we already know the answer, but I’m going to enlighten you (yet again) regardless.
AND there is nothing said by anyone here expressing admiration for the police shooting anyone but armed felons, while you stupidly claim there is — and completely without evidence, as is usual. You see, this actually well-known (to non-racist conservatives versus you racist liberals) and actually peer-reviewed study documents the actual reality that different crime rates not only do account police shootings of black suspects, but police are actually more likely to shoot white suspects, period (contrast this with y’all high sk00l drop-out racist liars endlessly repeating your evidence-free excuses):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-a-massive-new-study-on-police-shootings-of-whites-and-blacks-is-so-controversial/?utm_term=.f40fd61131f0
The actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot unarmed white folks remains no matter how many excuses y’all dishonest, ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad-infinitum:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/black-suspects-more-likely-to-be-shot-by-black-cop/
Black officers are more likely to shoot black suspects than white cops — and both white and black cops are still more likely to shoot white suspects than black suspects, regardless.
Stop lying. Stop voting DemoKKKrat. Stop projecting your clearly-demonstrated anti-white racism onto the rest of us. Stop being literally everything you’re pretending to hate.
Sorry to hold you up, but, I’ll let you get back to BLM and demanding free shit from white people who owe you less than nothing. : D
And I must tell you dipsheet, I dont like the looks of your face, it makes wanna do things to it…
And I will go ahead and tell you something, you racist POS, being that you’re in no position to be telling anyone anything whatsoever in the first place: you’re precisely the reason why people like Chip even carry a gun to begin with — and you willfully VALIDATE everything he says. : D
This video shows one of the reasons cops shoot people who shouldn’t get shot. Police training emphasizes the use of a “command voice” to insure compliance from suspects. I suppose the premise behind this training is that if a otherwise emotionally immature, socially awkward cop can somehow make himself sound like a military training instructor he or she will be better able to compel compliance from the perps (that’s you and me, folks). For reasons that are obvious in this video, this can be a prescription for disaster. What stands out in this video is that the cop’s use of his fakey-do “command voice” did noting but confuse an innocent citizen which ended up getting him shot because he was TRYING TO PULL UP HIS PANTS!
Put a cop like this in confrontation with people like underclass Blacks or really anyone who’s life experiences are different from his and the likelihood of getting shot increases exponentially. This happens simply because his communication style, far from being forceful, is simply confusing. Military DI’s are good at this stuff—young cops with low self-images are not. With cops like this on the streets it’s no wonder Black people and other minorities are scared shitless of cops. Everybody should be scared of a cop like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ooa7wOKHhg
Those cops are retards and they should face nothing but lifetime for a straight execution. They made an extremely drunk, crying guy crawl on his crossed legs with hands up. Give a man an imposssible task and kill him if he fails. Also, every “tactic” (not sure if you could classify stupidity as a tactic) they used was wrong.
Suspect facing them. Fail. Suspect crawling, making it slow and likely to trip, as he did. Fail. Suspect did not put his shirt up and turn around so that this retards would’ve known he has no gun on the hip. Fail. Yelling retarded comands that are contradictory and retarded. Fail. Not arresting him on the spot without making him move (they were NOT concerned about people still in the room, as some police defenders say, because you see they don’t even secure the room directly after but just walk around like headless chickens). FAILLLLL!!!!!
I too was struck by the fact that the police DID NOT MOVE after they ordered the man and woman onto their knees with their hands in the air. Why didn’t they approach and cuff them right then and there? After all, there were TWO COPS. Why did they not approach? Then they had both of them face down on the ground, hands outstretched. WHAT WERE THEY AFRAID OF THEN? It isn’t as if the corner they were standing behind was going to save them if the guy really did have a gun, and besides, they had the drop on him and he obviously knew it. Yes, the guy did reach towards his waist, but it never should have gotten to that point.
There were SIX cops!
What’s not mentioned her (so I will mention it) is that the doorway he was very neqar to was the one he came out of.
When something like this happens, the cops do NOT want to go near the door because there could well be another shooter in the room (the room had not been cleared) who could have started shooting if the cops approached.
So having the man crawl to them is standard practice in such cases.
He shot a white guy. Nobody cares. I’m not being a dick, it’s true. Liberals don’t give a shit if it’s a white guy being murdered.
That was torture, straight up. And murder. But as Hank says, it was just some white dude. No profit to be made from it, so nobody that’s anybody needs to care. Move along.
Oh, man – that was BRUTAL to watch. The cop told him to keep his hands up, and if he puts them down he’ll get shot. Then he tells the guy to crawl towards him. I thought he was going to get shot the second he put his hands down(which is what the cop threatened). And it doesn’t matter what color the guy was, he did NOT deserve to die like that…
Wait, it’s not a complaint about cops shooting anyone INAPPROPRIATELY?
If everyone who got shot by a cop, was someone who was appropriately ASKING FOR IT, then what would you have the cops do? SHOOT MORE OF THE OTHER GROUPS, FOR NO REASON?????????????
If so, start with the Asians, they have the most catching up to do.
Cops with guns shoot people. On an other note… How hard is it to fit s barrel in s 1911, I’m looking to get a drop in and I see all this lug engagement ,.hood, and stuff. How hard is it really, could I do it with a file and nothing else. Where can I get a carbon steel drop in barrel?
Well fck. Appears I should debate more then fix guns.
What in the world are you even talking about? What has your disjointed comment to do with the topic being discussed?
Is Mr. Selby’s book really called In Corntext? Are you sure?
He must be reporting on some of the Iowan PDs
Well I’m not going to at all discount real serious issues with police use of force… well here’s a thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-mnYLPxwtc
Country to what the left the cops are not just a right wing death squad. They are a part of a very large system that sadly has a lot of problems that need to be resolved.
Compiled figures from across the country show twice as many whites are shot by police as blacks.
So what’s your point?
Hey man, it’s all about percentages! Statistics matter! Raw numbers are “meaningless” without corntext.
Oh man it’s Vice…anything they do is innately suspect. BS media are US…
Sounds like more liberal BS to me! Figures don’t lie, but liers figure!
Stupid people doing Stupid things winning Stupid prizes. When the person with the badge and gun tells you to do something. It’s always a good Idea to comply.
CPRC addressed this question a year ago:
Lott, John R. and Moody, Carlisle E., Do White Police Officers Unfairly Target Black Suspects? (November 15, 2016). Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=2870189 or http://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.2870189
So booby BobS your hero John Lott, who you keep praising and advertising, admitted back in 2003 that he had created a fake online account “Mary Nosh” supposedly one of his former students who spent all her online time praising Lott and advertising his publications…
… So just between us booby am I talking to another sock puppet of the esteemed John Lott?
So, someone who actually has the integrity to say that they praised themselves with a sock account, apologize for it, and never repeat the error — and whose work has never been refuted — is less esteemed than someone like yourself who has been repeatedly discredited as a liar and a racist (that’s you in case you’re wondering)…
So, just between us, are we talking to another sock puppet of the deplorable Khalid Abdul Muhammad?
These numbers are completely expected. Who gets shot? People committing crimes. Which ethnic group accounts for the highest crime rate? Exactly.
However, the last comprhensive national statistics I saw showed that a white suspect is far more likely to be shot than a black suspect.
As a percentage of people shot, yes, but as percentages of their percentage of the population, no. Because numbers!
As a percentage of criminal suspects, whites are shot in larger proportion than blacks. And that’s the proportion that really matters.
So the documented reality of police disporportionately shooting unarmed black folks is NOT explained away by citing the fact that black folks disproportionately commit crimes (no matter how many times you rignorant dishonest racists repeat this bullsheet).
Heres one of many peer reviewed studies indisputably documenting this reality (juxtapose this with yall GED racist liars repeating your evidence-free excuse):
“There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
The documented reality of police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks remains no matter how many excuses yall dishonest ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad nauseam:
“The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans…”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
The actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot white folks IS explained away not only by citing the fact that black folks commit far and away much, much more crime than any other demographic in the U.S., but racists like you have scared them into shooting more white folks.
Here’s an actual peer-reviewed study, one of many, that indisputably document the exact polar opposite of the delusion you oh-so-desperately want to (but CAN’T and WON’T) call reality (juxtapose this with y’all high sk00l drop-out racist liars repeating your evidence-free excuse):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-a-massive-new-study-on-police-shootings-of-whites-and-blacks-is-so-controversial/?utm_term=.f40fd61131f0
The actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot unarmed white folks remains no matter how many excuses y’all dishonest, ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad-infinitum:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/black-suspects-more-likely-to-be-shot-by-black-cop/
Black officers are more likely to shoot black suspects than white cops — and both white and black cops are still more likely to shoot white suspects than black suspects, regardless.
Stop lying. Stop voting DemoKKKrat. Stop projecting your clearly-demonstrated anti-white racism onto the rest of us. Stop being literally everything you’re pretending to hate.
If these are statistics where is the margin of error? There is no way these numbers are absolute.
There are so many mixed marriages in this country, correctly categorizing a race could come down to “close enough for government work”.
Cops also shoot unarmed Black NON-suspects.
Ask Charles Kinsey and Akai Gurley.
Police killing the demographic that commits the most crime is a good thing, it should happen more often.
Regardless of actual threat, guilt or innocence?
So, do you think that Akai Gurley and Charles Kinsey DESERVED to be shot?
Welcome to the unashamed racism of the TTAG commenters.
Jimmy bob. Up yours you self righteous cretin. Only a room temp IQ would see racism in simple numbers. Blacks are 13% of the population but commit 88% of the crimes in this country. If you are unable to process this simple fact then go back to school.
I notice that nobody answered that simple question.
@ The Bore – let’s ask that question once more, “Regardless of actual threat, guilt or innocence? Meaning that, in your oh, so enlightened opinion, all blacks should be shot simply because they are of the same race as others who commit crimes?
Gee, that sounds a lot like the leftists, and how they constantly insinuate that all gun owners are responsible for the crimes of a few, doesn’t it?
I’ve got a very different perspective on who is truly a cretin (and a racist), and who should actually go back to school. Reading comprehension is a thing… maybe you should try it once.
88% of the crime is committed by blacks? Blacks lead in homicide and robbery’s, that’s true. However the homicide numbers are partly skewed because a very large chunk of those murders are in concentrated gang areas like Chicago, Baltimore, New York, Cleveland, Detroit, etc……… There’s not some Helter Skelter bullcrap going down like Colin Flaherty and Charles Manson try and tried to preach. White people lead the crime in this country by a long shot and it’s not even close. Blacks kill each other at a higher rate than any other race, but the crime numbers are still higher for whites and that 88% of crime number is straight unfounded lies. Here’s the fbi crime by race data from 2016 that shows whites commit the most crime in this country and it’s not even close. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21 . Then you look at Hispanic or Latino and you start to wonder why do we want to build this wall again? Whites lead by a long shot in rape, aggravated assault, burglary, larceny, arson, motor vehicle theft, drug abuse, violent crime as a whole, ……..etc. What’s interesting is how the numbers go up in robbery with the under 18 years of age blacks, which shows if you are to be robbed by a teenager he will more than like be black. Once again this all has to do with demographics as well. If you live in inner city Chicago you are more than likely going to get killed by a black man if you’re murdered. If you are a female you are more than likely to be raped by a white man because white run away with the rape stat and it’s not even a question. Interesting enough if you take the Chicago murders (762) alone out of the stats then the white and black murder numbers are almost exact. And yes we know blacks are a mere 13% of the population, but that %13 is concentrated in ghettos with high poverty and gang activity. Blacks killing each is a major problem that the communities can’t seem to fix but to preach you need to fear black people is false advertisement and there’s cemeteries full of white people who were killed by other whites. Don’t follow in Manson’s footsteps with this Helter Skelter rhetoric
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/table-21/table-21-overview.pdf
I did the math a couple of times and I can’t seem to get 88%. This is the summary of the sheet that’s at the bottom of the page. I figured some would not read the entire data sheet so I posted the summary for those who would be guilty of such things.
@Jeremy — Except that if you adjust for population, the whole “it’s not even close whitey leads” (non)argument actually flips in almost every single category. Blacks are still arrested far out-of-proportion for their demography and are correctly assigned with a higher incidence rate of criminality almost across the board. You’re correct that whites lead in absolute numbers, but it’s actually the rate per population that really counts. To simply pull even with blacks, whites would need to be arrested for about four times as many offenses as blacks — and the only category that actually reflects this is DUIs. You’re also correct in that the vast majority of crimes are concentrated in just a few neighborhoods in our large cities.
This brings to a mind a study by a Yale sociologist which concluded that crime victimization was closely connected to social networks; i.e. the closer you’re socially related to the criminal element, the higher the likelihood of your victimization (he concentrated on homicides in CHIRAQ but it’s not a huge stretch to apply that to other crimes in other cities as well). This fit in well with the fact that the CDC finding 80% of homicides to be gang-related.
T.H.E.Bear IS a racist, but to be fair even if he were not he would be too dumb to understand the obvious flaw in his attempt at logic.
You see each year only 1% of black folks commit violent crimes and only 2% of black men commit violent crimes so even if black folks/men committed ALL the violent crime it obviously would not make sense to treat them differently, it would be completely irrational to discriminate against black folks/men since 98-99 out of a 100 are not engaged in violent crime.
This is how blighted yall racists are, you can only regurgitate your Stormfront stats, you have capacity to think in any meaningful way.
And its also true that the documented reality of police disporportionately shooting unarmed black folks is NOT explained away by citing the fact that black folks disproportionately commit crimes (no matter how many times you ignorant dishonest racists repeat this bullsheet).
Heres one of many peer reviewed studies indisputably documenting this reality (juxtapose this with yall GED racist liars repeating your evidence-free excuse):
“There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
The documented reality of police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks remains no matter how many excuses yall dishonest ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad nauseam:
“The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans…”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
YOU are the racist, no one else. To be completely honest, there’s no possibility that you ever wouldn’t be and you would never have the intellectual capacity to comprehend the obvious flaws in your own laughable attempts at “logic.”
You see, a larger percentage of black men commit violent crimes every year than any other demographic in the U.S., and despite this they’re still less likely to be shot than white folks. Still, you claim — and without any supporting evidence whatsoever — that there’s still a disparity aimed at black folks, which you use to discriminate against all white people.
This is how blighted y’all projecting racists are. You can only regurgitate your fake BLM “stats,” because you don’t have the capacity to think, period. Nevermind in any meaningful way.
And it’s actually true that the documented reality of police shooting proportionally more white folks than black folks IS explained away by citing the fact that black folks commit crime far and away out of proportion to their demography (no matter how many times you dishonest racists repeat your evidence-free bullshit).
Here’s an actual peer-reviewed study, one of many, that indisputably document the exact polar opposite of the delusion you oh-so-desperately want to (but CAN’T and WON’T) call reality (juxtapose this with y’all high sk00l drop-out racist liars repeating your evidence-free excuse):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-a-massive-new-study-on-police-shootings-of-whites-and-blacks-is-so-controversial/?utm_term=.f40fd61131f0
The actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot unarmed white folks remains no matter how many excuses y’all dishonest, ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad-infinitum:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/black-suspects-more-likely-to-be-shot-by-black-cop/
Black officers are more likely to shoot black suspects than white cops — and both white and black cops are still more likely to shoot white suspects than black suspects, regardless.
Stop lying. Stop voting DemoKKKrat. Stop projecting your clearly-demonstrated anti-white racism onto the rest of us. Stop being literally everything you’re pretending to hate.
Police shooting someone (or any one shooting someone) has nothing to do with guilt or innocence. Shootings are justified if they are self defense (or the defense of others). The police are not shooting because a crime has occurred, its not a punishment.
Hey Vice, how about I slap your shit? More people are beaten to death by hands and feet than shot to death by rifles of any type every year. Go back to doing documentaries about African marijuana culture.
The relative rates of getting shot by race reflects what 2 of my LEO friends have told me off the record. That African Americans are the most likely to run or resist. Followed by hispanics, followed by whites, followed by Asians.
So since I’ve only got a sample size of 2, this is hardly scientific. But I’d bet there is some causation here and not just correlation. In general, the more you resist and/or run, the more likely you are to get shot. It makes perfect sense. For better or for worse.
So, you pervasive liberal racist 9as if there’s any other kind), there really ISN’T any evidence of your racist delusions of your overtly racist anti-police pals that you have racistly regurgitated on your racist websites and social media pages… presuming that your so-called “friends” even exist… it’s actually as likely that you are just another anti-white racist weasel who tries to cloak your racism in whatever bullshit it lends your racist fever dreams legitimacy…
Now, what there is actually evidence for, is that the police actually disproportionately shoot white folks, not black folks, and this is what’s actually documented by many actual peer-reviewed studies, like this one:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-a-massive-new-study-on-police-shootings-of-whites-and-blacks-is-so-controversial/?utm_term=.f40fd61131f0
And that same peer-reviewed study, as well as others, also documents that that favorite lie from racists like you, that white police disproportionately shoot black folks, DOESN’T even happen. Not only that, but black are more likely to shoot black suspects than white officers:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/black-suspects-more-likely-to-be-shot-by-black-cop/
So, contrast this actual documented reality with your racist musing which amounts to “crackers are violent/criminal” dipshit.
Thanks to LIBERALRACISTFANATISIST for documenting that she is too dumb to evaluate sources.
LIBERALRACISTFANATISIST first links to a NEWSPAPER ARTICLE claiming she is linking to a PEER REVIEWED STUDY
And the document LIBERALRACISTFANATISISTs newspaper article link discusses is NOT A PEER REVIEWED STUDY, it is a WORKING PAPER which means it has NOT BEEN PEER REVIEWED.
This is typical of the racist dunces on this embarassing site, they cant distinguish between reliable and unreliable sources ie journalists accounts, scholarly treatment in a peer reviewed journal, working paper publish online…
… Yall are like the subjects in that famous study of uneducated TV viewers in southern Italy, they naively confused and conflated ads, news and shows, for them it was all just one endless stream of sights and sounds
… Thats how it is for yall racist ignoramuses, if its written down anywhere on your screens and it is in harmony with your racist delusions you cling to it grateful for any nonsense that you imagine validates your racism
Thanks to you, an actual liberal racist dunce, for projecting your inability to evaluate sources onto someone who has repeatedly refuted everything you’ve said.
I actually first link to a newspaper article within which there is a link to the actual peer-reviewed study that disproves everything you’ve said. Which means you didn’t read the article in the first place.
And the document that you, an actual liberal racist dunce (as if there’s any other kind), falsely claim that it’s a working paper when it’s not.
This is typical of the liberal racist dunces that embarrass themselves by trolling on this site: they project their rote inability to differentiate between actual studies and fundamentally flawed junkit wordsalads.
You ARE the uneducated TV viewer in the Italian study, and you simply accept without question every spoonfull of racist dogma that the lamestream media offers you. That’s because it comports with your already fundamentally racist view of the world around you.
That’s how it is for you liberal racist dunces. You project all of your social and psychological ills onto others simply because they disagree with you, meanwhile you’re actually looking in the mirror when you think you’re slapping labels onto someone else whom you damn well know it does not, cannot, and will not stick to, ever.
There are only 4 races. Caucoid, Negroid, Australoid and Asian. I wish for once in my effing life someone would write or talk about race and not say Hispanic, which is not a race. For God’s sake a little research goes a long way.
There’s a reasonable case to be made that the indigenous peoples of the Americas are genetically different enough to be neither white, black or asian. ( and definitely not Australoid!). Native Americans and the Mestizo populations of Central and South America are much more indigenous than Hispanic, in the case of most of the lower class and criminal population, especially, but the terms Hispanic and Latino are the accepted terms, even if they don’t really apply.
Most of those little, brown central and south American illegal aliens and immigrants share very little heritage with an actual Spaniard.
If you mean “races” as in “population groups that have visually distinctive genotype and phenotype, with roughly equal distance between each other”, then there are several hundred of those. Most of them are in Africa. What this means is that two guys from Africa may well have more genetic difference between them, than either one has compared to a white guy from US.
Coincidentally, that is also the only definition that is even remotely scientific. All others are “I’ll know it when I see it”. In particular, the usual White/Black/Asian/… classification is just that – it corresponds to how people in one particular culture think about races, not about the actual differences. And because in American culture, what matters most is whether you’re “properly white” or not, white is separate from Hispanic, even though it’s a purely cultural distinction.
“St. Louis had the highest per capita rate of police shootings among the 50 departments we analyzed but provided scant details for shootings that happened after 2014.
The Lou has historically been a very violent city, often ranked annually as the most violent city in the US I should know having grown up in the city. St. Louis City is also the source for 75% of MO Department of Correction’s prison population. That goes a long way in explaining why the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department leads in police shootings statewide.
Yeah, I got a kick out of that. One of the bloodiest, most gang ridden cities in the US somehow also has the most police shootings? That’s racist! SMH….
And also one of the most corrupt.
So the documented reality of police disporportionately shooting unarmed black folks is NOT explained away by citing the fact that black folks disproportionately commit crimes (no matter how many times you rignorant dishonest racists repeat this bullsheet).
Heres one of many peer reviewed studies indisputably documenting this reality (juxtapose this with yall GED racist liars repeating your evidence-free excuse):
“There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
The documented reality of police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks remains no matter how many excuses yall dishonest ignorant racists concoct and repeat ad nauseam:
“The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans…”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854
So, the actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot white folks than black folks is what’s really NOT explained away by the fact that black folks disproportionately commit crimes (no matter how many times pig-ignorant and dishonest racists like you repeat this bullshit).
Here’s one of many actual peer-reviewed studies indisputably documenting the actual reality (juxtapose this with you non-GED-having drop-out racist liars repeating your evidence-free excuses):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-a-massive-new-study-on-police-shootings-of-whites-and-blacks-is-so-controversial/?utm_term=.f40fd61131f0
The actual documented reality of police being more likely to shoot white folks than black folks remains no matter how many lies pig-ignorant and dishonest racists like you concoct and repeat them ad-nauseum:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/black-suspects-more-likely-to-be-shot-by-black-cop/
Black officers are more likely to shoot black suspects than white cops — and both white and black cops are still more likely to shoot white suspects than black suspects, regardless.
Red in CO the problem of course with your smug remark is that we are not talking about black gang members being shot, the issue is UNARMED black folks being disproportionately shot by police…
…naturally if unarmed folks from a group you cared about, a group you considered to be fully human were being disproportionately shot you would never conflate them with gang members…
…but since your an ignorant dishonest racist azzzwipe this makes perfect sense to you to do this with unarmed black folks and gang members
Liberal retard, the actual problem with your smug remarks — which are for a fact the only smug remarks here — is that we actually ARE talking about black gang members being shot, and the actual issue is that police are more likely to shoot unarmed WHITE folks than black folks…
Naturally, if unarmed folks from a group that you cared about (which would ONLY be black folks in your case), a group you considered fully human (which yet again would ONLY be black folks in your case), were actually being disproportionately shot you would never lie and try to claim the obverse…
But, since you’re projecting your own dishonest racism onto everyone else here, it makes perfect sense to you to this with unarmed WHITE folks and gang members.
So Robert Farago Im perplexed as to why you tried to write an coherent article about statistics when you acknowledge that you are “math-challenged”.
http://dev.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/12/robert-farago/cops-are-shooting-unarmed-black-suspects-and/#comment-3753711
And your ignorance of math is so outlandish that you dont even understand that when comparing groups of different sizes ie blacks and whites it is of course not raw numbers but per capita rates that are the meaningful measure:
“… Vice’s race card agenda forced them to adjust for population, rather than list the raw numbers …” (paragraph 6)
http://dev.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/12/robert-farago/cops-are-shooting-unarmed-black-suspects-and/#comment-3753711
School children understand the difference between raw numbers and per capita rates, how is it possible that an adult who presumes to critique an article (and to do so in a snarky condescending way) and aver authoritative conclusions is wholly ignorant of this simple concept!?
You validate your readers ignorance as several commenters (including Ralph, Robert, John, Cloudbuster, Thinker1) cite and/or echo your ignorant remark, and only one Mark N corrects it
We’re perplexed as to why you try (and ultimately fail as always) to write a coherent response about anything when you’ve been proven to be “factually challenged.”
And your own willful pig ignorance of math is what’s actually so outlandish that you yourself don’t even understand the difference between rates of incidents versus total raw numbers.
So, apparently, you don’t even rise to the level of a school child because you presume to critique an actually coherent response to more dog whistle race-baiting from the lamestream “news” media with literally nothing more than demonstrably unsubstantiated and unsupportable accusations of racism against those who merely disagree with you, and you do so in a snarky and condescending way yourself.
You validate your own ignorance as a few commenters have rightly corrected you already, and you have found absolutely nothing whatsoever to correct anyone on.
They only compare percentages when it favors their desired narrative. Looking at raw numbers would allow statistical comparison, and just might lead to very different conclusions.
Primary school kids understand that when you compare groups of different sizes ie black and white folks raw numbers are meaningless, it is per capita rates that are the meaningful measure, this is how math works, this is a well-known tenet of statistics.
So naturally this racist dunce remarks:
Thinker1 says:
December 14, 2017 at 13:22
They only compare percentages when it favors their desired narrative. Looking at raw numbers would allow statistical comparison, and just might lead to very different conclusions.
Primary sk00l kids understand that when you repeatedly lie about the per-capita rates of different groups of people being shot by the police, they know that you don’t know how math works because you don’t know any of the basic tenets of statistics.
So, naturally, a racist dunce like you remarks: “Everyone who disagrees with me is a racist.” That, and that ALONE, is the summation of your entire premise, period.
When a cop shoots an unarmed person im more worried about was the shoot justified and or avoidable then the color of the person.
Generally police should NOT be putting themselves in positions where they have to shoot an unarmed person. They should have enough guys there to use clubs and holds. And if they can’t take the guy with out a shooting they should follow at distance until backup comes along.
Wow! Police executed this man and got away with it. Only a cold blooded murderer could sleep at night after doing such a thing to an innocent civilian. I hear hell is hot though.
I think it is time for us to address the rampant problem of Asian privilege.
Police shooting unarmed citizens should be a cause for concern.
Just to clear things up…. Cops shoot everyone, regardless of color. However, they vastly shoot more unarmed Blacks then can be accounted for as a percentage of the population. IE… If Blacks make up 7% of the population of one of the major cities, let’s say Los Angeles, yet 48% of all police shootings of unarmed citizens in Los Angeles is Black, that is a DISCREPANCY to be investigated as to the cause.
If Whites are 55% of the population of Los Angeles, but unarmed shootings of Whites by cops only account for 2% of the shootings, then when you compare the Black unarmed shootings and White unarmed shootings, the numbers don’t follow a logical pattern.
You would assume logically that a higher population would result in higher unarmed shooting rates by cops, even without accounting for racial breakdowns of who commits crimes. If your population is 90% White, even in a safe city, you have a much higher chance of being a White victim of terrorism, accidents, deaths, disease, etc. simply because of the numbers. Oh, your herd of 1,000,000 gazelle had 450 deaths due to predation? Sad, but expected. But, what about the herd of 100,000 antelope right next to that herd of gazelle that had 600 deaths due to predation? Now you have a mystery to solve. What was the cause of this strange result?
Getting back to humanity’s problems and specifically unarmed citizens shot by police.
Is it Institutional Racism? Possibly. Is it badly trained police officers? Possibly. Is it the quality of officers picked from the candidates? Possibly. Is it a failure of leadership to acknowledge the issues, provide strong guidance and offer remedial training? Possibly. Could it be all of these or more issues working together? Possibly. The idea is to get all the reasons, target them individually, take corrective or remedial action after an after-action-report or assessment has been done, then exam the results a year later, 2 years later, 3 years later to see if the numbers improve. You could also target just 1 factor, exam the results, go to the next factor, exam results to try to identify the exact causes. However, this takes a lot of time, resources, effort and money and results may not be immediate and most police departments will want to eliminate the problem quicker.
I don’t think people here are Racists. I have faith in humanity and what we can accomplish if we are together. I just think any crude remarks come from ignorance rather than racism.
Don’t simply ignore the other sides, try to understand why they are saying what they are. Do they not have a grasp of basic mathematics, statistics, etc.? Are they just ignorant of issues with other races? Are they caught in a belief system that is pervasive where they grew up and hard to budge? Perhaps, they are just stubborn?
Some food for thought.
Excellently stated.
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