Everyone…………… the reason why the RKBA is not privileged to the public servants to act upon and why it is further protected b the 2nd, is that no tyrannical and corrupt government would ever allow the formation of an Armed Citizen MILITIA!!!!!
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Why??? Because not even the most insane tyrannical government would allow armed citizens form a Militia, all of the Militia seeking the heads of the tyrannical government.
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Can someone get this to biden and the democrats!
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NO……….. the federal reserve National Guard, are not the “Militia” of the 5th Amendment.
Check it out and understand why.
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“NO……….. the federal reserve National Guard, are not the “Militia” of the 5th Amendment.
Check it out and understand why.“
Actually no, under federal law passed by Congress pursuant to the constitution’s supremacy clause, the National Guard is indeed the organized ‘militia’.
CHAPTER 12—THE MILITIA
Sec.
246.Militia: composition and classes.
247.Militia duty: exemptions.
§246. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.”
Interesting fun fact, every single Brown, yellow or black skinned immigrant who has come to America seeking asylum, is also a member of the militia and entitled to their full Second Amendment rights.
The Militia, it’s not just for American citizens…
IMO part of the problem for some people are the words “A well REGULATED Militia..”
Words change meaning sometimes, and over time.
Regulated once meant “in good working order” at that time, ya needed a working weapon, gunpowder and the means to make/get bullets (lead ball etc).
Didn’t say ‘well dressed” with a commander at the moment of call up. Like the NG etc.
The statute above is correct, it’s the misuse of ‘regulated” that confuses.
“Words change meaning sometimes, and over time.
Regulated once meant “in good working order” at that time, ya needed a working weapon“
Regulated has always meant ‘subject to rules or restrictions’.
Webster’s 1828:
“REG’ULATED, participle passive Adjusted by rule, method or forms; put in good order; subjected to rules or restrictions.“
However the militia are not ‘the people’. Please read. The militia argument is so 5th grade. Note: the people are not regulated…just read it.
Ever heard the terms “regulars” and “irregulars” used in connection with armed combatants? Ever hear of General VonStuben in your distorted public school versions of U.S. history? Battlefield maneuvers of the 18th century and on into the early 19th century consisted of maneuvering large bodies of men in close order drill. Knowing how to move even a small body of troops requires training and practice. Troops marched to battlefields in columns. Changing a column of troops into a line of troops to provide massed fire on enemy formations required knowledge on the part of the NCOs and officers to know when and how to align the formations. VonStuben spent the winter retreat at Valley Forge drilling officers and troops on how to maneuver on the battlefield of the 18th century. Try getting a battalion of troops from a marching column into an on-line (no not sending e-mails) formation to pour massed fire on the enemy on-line formation required lots of practice = “well regulated”. Try getting 40 of your buddies in a column of fours and tell them to maintain their 8 man squads but get the whole column on line with a minimum of confusion. What you will see is what we called a Chinese fire drill in the Old Corps. The command is “Squads, right front onto line, march!” or the reverse, left front on to line. Never heard that before? Surprise, we no longer have massed formations on line blazing away at enemy formations. We now use “irregular tactics” in combat. If you want to see examples of well-regulated troops, go watch the Sunset Parade some summer evening at the Marine Barracks at Eight and Eye streets in DC.
I don’t care what unconstitutional laws congress has passed. There are so many if they were all challenged we would have to enlarge the Supremes so that we could run the supreme court 24/7/365.
There’s probably a market for this. All anyone needs to do is figure out a video screen for the t-shirt, link it to a smart phone, and sell the ad space.
Opinion , minus the pin and you have onion.
Unlike ass holes not everyone has an onion.
pi is 3.14 you do need the n, I almost made a mistake again.
So where do I go to get a TTAG t-shirt?
Have you tried Brownels?
is or is not?
My glass is half empty when I’m emptying it and its half full when I’m filling it.
It’s always full. It’s just that half is a liquid and the other half is gaseous.
the glass is simply larger than it needs to be.
is or is not refers to what’s written on the t-shirt.
is
It is because “existing gun laws” are already anti 2nd amendment.
and also because strictly enforcing them requires other tyrannical and rights violations.
We have found this out the hard way in PA when the state police began prosecuting all background check denials that were not appealed.
Not so fast Art spin…Unfortunately what you think about all Gun Laws is not relevant to what was written on the t-shirt. Which do you prefer, Strictly Enforcing Existing Gun Laws or More Gun Laws? For many Years More and More Gun Laws has been the drumbeat coming from the anti 2A crowd. Never have I heard any anti 2A Call for Strictly Enforcing Existing Gun Laws…have you?
Because of the thousands of gun laws on the books Enforce Existing Gun Laws has always been the Pro 2A response to Calls from the anti 2A crowd for more Gun Laws…
Unless you can prove otherwise, Strictly enforcing existing gun laws is not and never has been an anti 2A position.
enforcing gun laws is infringement so…
“We have found this out the hard way in PA when the state police began prosecuting all background check denials that were not appealed“
Wait a minute, don’t we want to investigate and prosecute those folks who attempt to purchase a firearm when in fact they were prohibited persons by law because of previous crimes or mental defects?
Oh wait a minute, this is a right wing forum where everybody should have a gun regardless of their mental illness or criminal history, got it.
jr…go play in your sandbox.
“Thanks!”
He said in an overly pink shirt.
NY 2A Defendant Admits to US Federal Appeals Court that New Gun Law Violates 2A. The District Attorney for the County of Niagara was sued to enjoin his office from enforcing the law banning guns in places of worship and today he filed a legal brief in the Court of Appeals conceding that the NY law was unconstitutional under the Second Amendment and NYSRPA v. Bruen.
Refund from corrupt/incompetent NY lawyers acting for the state of NY……….probably would have more luck getting money back from pfizer for injuries resulting from use of their product.
Our government wouldn’t let the citizens of the United States have weapons if they were a threat to the government. In other words ,” Your puny weapons are useless against us, resistance is futile, prepare to be assimilated. ”
When We The People take our gunms down to the grocery store to fight over the last can of beans then Our government will disarm the citezens.
Our Right to Bear Arms is a gifted privalage from our Giverment. You may think otherwise however the National Gaurd during hurricane Katrina showed us just how the cow can eat the cabbage
At the time of the writing and adoption of the Amendments that would become our Bill of Rights, “Well Regulated” meant trained in a uniform fashion, and nothing more. The Revolutionary War had revealed the problem that lack of Training caused, as for the fact that in the majority of battles and skirmishes, the contingents of the Continental Army had its butt kicked. It wasn’t until Lafayette, Steuben and others instituted training that was Well Regulated, that the fortunes of war turned in our favor.
Madison, Hamilton and other Founders recognized that a uniformly trained Militia was tactically and strategically superior to a Ragtag band.
In the writings, diaries and papers of the Founders, not only is Who is the Militia? but What does Well Regulated mean? are both clearly defined. Also defined is the Fact that the 2nd consists of Two separate Clauses, one Independent and one Dependent Clause only tangentially related because they refer to both Personal and State Defense. The First Clause is dependent and cannot exist without the Second Clause, which is the Indepdndent Clause. Without the Personal Right of the People To Keep And Bear Arms, the Militia, which consists of the People, cannot exist. You can have one without the other, but you cannot have the other without the one. Especially considering the Founders near universal aversion to any Standing Army. Congress’s, later attempts to control, what was intended only to place the Militias under Federal rather than State control are among the very first Infringements upon the 2nd Amendment.
I really don’t care what later so called Constitutional Scholars and Congress revise, because Madison’s original proposed Amendments, and the discussions of the Delegates, clearly establishes the original intent of the Founders.
The question is open to interpretation.
Everyone…………… the reason why the RKBA is not privileged to the public servants to act upon and why it is further protected b the 2nd, is that no tyrannical and corrupt government would ever allow the formation of an Armed Citizen MILITIA!!!!!
=
Why??? Because not even the most insane tyrannical government would allow armed citizens form a Militia, all of the Militia seeking the heads of the tyrannical government.
=
Can someone get this to biden and the democrats!
=
NO……….. the federal reserve National Guard, are not the “Militia” of the 5th Amendment.
Check it out and understand why.
=
“NO……….. the federal reserve National Guard, are not the “Militia” of the 5th Amendment.
Check it out and understand why.“
Actually no, under federal law passed by Congress pursuant to the constitution’s supremacy clause, the National Guard is indeed the organized ‘militia’.
CHAPTER 12—THE MILITIA
Sec.
246.Militia: composition and classes.
247.Militia duty: exemptions.
§246. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.”
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title10/subtitleA/part1/chapter12&edition=prelim
Interesting fun fact, every single Brown, yellow or black skinned immigrant who has come to America seeking asylum, is also a member of the militia and entitled to their full Second Amendment rights.
The Militia, it’s not just for American citizens…
IMO part of the problem for some people are the words “A well REGULATED Militia..”
Words change meaning sometimes, and over time.
Regulated once meant “in good working order” at that time, ya needed a working weapon, gunpowder and the means to make/get bullets (lead ball etc).
Didn’t say ‘well dressed” with a commander at the moment of call up. Like the NG etc.
The statute above is correct, it’s the misuse of ‘regulated” that confuses.
“Words change meaning sometimes, and over time.
Regulated once meant “in good working order” at that time, ya needed a working weapon“
Regulated has always meant ‘subject to rules or restrictions’.
Webster’s 1828:
“REG’ULATED, participle passive Adjusted by rule, method or forms; put in good order; subjected to rules or restrictions.“
https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/regulated
However the militia are not ‘the people’. Please read. The militia argument is so 5th grade. Note: the people are not regulated…just read it.
Ever heard the terms “regulars” and “irregulars” used in connection with armed combatants? Ever hear of General VonStuben in your distorted public school versions of U.S. history? Battlefield maneuvers of the 18th century and on into the early 19th century consisted of maneuvering large bodies of men in close order drill. Knowing how to move even a small body of troops requires training and practice. Troops marched to battlefields in columns. Changing a column of troops into a line of troops to provide massed fire on enemy formations required knowledge on the part of the NCOs and officers to know when and how to align the formations. VonStuben spent the winter retreat at Valley Forge drilling officers and troops on how to maneuver on the battlefield of the 18th century. Try getting a battalion of troops from a marching column into an on-line (no not sending e-mails) formation to pour massed fire on the enemy on-line formation required lots of practice = “well regulated”. Try getting 40 of your buddies in a column of fours and tell them to maintain their 8 man squads but get the whole column on line with a minimum of confusion. What you will see is what we called a Chinese fire drill in the Old Corps. The command is “Squads, right front onto line, march!” or the reverse, left front on to line. Never heard that before? Surprise, we no longer have massed formations on line blazing away at enemy formations. We now use “irregular tactics” in combat. If you want to see examples of well-regulated troops, go watch the Sunset Parade some summer evening at the Marine Barracks at Eight and Eye streets in DC.
I don’t care what unconstitutional laws congress has passed. There are so many if they were all challenged we would have to enlarge the Supremes so that we could run the supreme court 24/7/365.
There’s probably a market for this. All anyone needs to do is figure out a video screen for the t-shirt, link it to a smart phone, and sell the ad space.
Opinion , minus the pin and you have onion.
Unlike ass holes not everyone has an onion.
pi is 3.14 you do need the n, I almost made a mistake again.
So where do I go to get a TTAG t-shirt?
Have you tried Brownels?
is or is not?
My glass is half empty when I’m emptying it and its half full when I’m filling it.
It’s always full. It’s just that half is a liquid and the other half is gaseous.
the glass is simply larger than it needs to be.
is or is not refers to what’s written on the t-shirt.
is
It is because “existing gun laws” are already anti 2nd amendment.
and also because strictly enforcing them requires other tyrannical and rights violations.
We have found this out the hard way in PA when the state police began prosecuting all background check denials that were not appealed.
Not so fast Art spin…Unfortunately what you think about all Gun Laws is not relevant to what was written on the t-shirt. Which do you prefer, Strictly Enforcing Existing Gun Laws or More Gun Laws? For many Years More and More Gun Laws has been the drumbeat coming from the anti 2A crowd. Never have I heard any anti 2A Call for Strictly Enforcing Existing Gun Laws…have you?
Because of the thousands of gun laws on the books Enforce Existing Gun Laws has always been the Pro 2A response to Calls from the anti 2A crowd for more Gun Laws…
Unless you can prove otherwise, Strictly enforcing existing gun laws is not and never has been an anti 2A position.
enforcing gun laws is infringement so…
“We have found this out the hard way in PA when the state police began prosecuting all background check denials that were not appealed“
Wait a minute, don’t we want to investigate and prosecute those folks who attempt to purchase a firearm when in fact they were prohibited persons by law because of previous crimes or mental defects?
Oh wait a minute, this is a right wing forum where everybody should have a gun regardless of their mental illness or criminal history, got it.
jr…go play in your sandbox.
“Thanks!”
He said in an overly pink shirt.
NY 2A Defendant Admits to US Federal Appeals Court that New Gun Law Violates 2A. The District Attorney for the County of Niagara was sued to enjoin his office from enforcing the law banning guns in places of worship and today he filed a legal brief in the Court of Appeals conceding that the NY law was unconstitutional under the Second Amendment and NYSRPA v. Bruen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzl0RK3MVmo
sore Os gunna want a refund
Refund from corrupt/incompetent NY lawyers acting for the state of NY……….probably would have more luck getting money back from pfizer for injuries resulting from use of their product.
Our government wouldn’t let the citizens of the United States have weapons if they were a threat to the government. In other words ,” Your puny weapons are useless against us, resistance is futile, prepare to be assimilated. ”
When We The People take our gunms down to the grocery store to fight over the last can of beans then Our government will disarm the citezens.
Our Right to Bear Arms is a gifted privalage from our Giverment. You may think otherwise however the National Gaurd during hurricane Katrina showed us just how the cow can eat the cabbage
At the time of the writing and adoption of the Amendments that would become our Bill of Rights, “Well Regulated” meant trained in a uniform fashion, and nothing more. The Revolutionary War had revealed the problem that lack of Training caused, as for the fact that in the majority of battles and skirmishes, the contingents of the Continental Army had its butt kicked. It wasn’t until Lafayette, Steuben and others instituted training that was Well Regulated, that the fortunes of war turned in our favor.
Madison, Hamilton and other Founders recognized that a uniformly trained Militia was tactically and strategically superior to a Ragtag band.
In the writings, diaries and papers of the Founders, not only is Who is the Militia? but What does Well Regulated mean? are both clearly defined. Also defined is the Fact that the 2nd consists of Two separate Clauses, one Independent and one Dependent Clause only tangentially related because they refer to both Personal and State Defense. The First Clause is dependent and cannot exist without the Second Clause, which is the Indepdndent Clause. Without the Personal Right of the People To Keep And Bear Arms, the Militia, which consists of the People, cannot exist. You can have one without the other, but you cannot have the other without the one. Especially considering the Founders near universal aversion to any Standing Army. Congress’s, later attempts to control, what was intended only to place the Militias under Federal rather than State control are among the very first Infringements upon the 2nd Amendment.
I really don’t care what later so called Constitutional Scholars and Congress revise, because Madison’s original proposed Amendments, and the discussions of the Delegates, clearly establishes the original intent of the Founders.
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