NSSF: Smith & Wesson Move Continues the Migration of Gun Makers to States That Support Gun Rights

1. Yep…I’d buy a new Springfield Saint or a Rock River rifle made out of ILLinoyed.

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2. Sadly nothing lasts forever and the old line Firearms manufactures on the East Coast in their blind greed know that in hillbilly states they can get the down trodden workers to work for nothing. Various state anti-gun laws also figure into the equation as well.

   The new law was designed to get Smith & Wesson to move out of the state. Its not rocket science.

   Corporations, thanks to Donald Trump, and the gangster criminal Republicans pay no taxes so no, Massachusetts loses no tax money there. Yes they lose tax money from the workers who will move out of the state and follow Smith & Wesson to its new location.

   And lastly when Massachusetts needs more money they always just raise taxes on the working people never on Corporations or greed monger C.E.O.’s who pay no taxes.

   And sadly voters memories are short. Three months after Smith vacates the State they will forget Smith ever made guns in Massachusetts and some voters who hate guns will be glad Smith is gone.

   Smith also knows that the down trodden worker troglodyte slave hillbillies in Tennessee will work for dirt cheap wages far lower than what people in Massachusetts will work for. This may be the other big reason Smith decided to move out. Blind greed rules the corporate world and always has.

   Be aware that when Smith hires new workers they will be less skilled than the former workers in Massachusetts and the quality of the new Smiths will go down as well. Although some people will argue the junk Smith is making today could hardly get any worse in workmanship.

   • Higher corporate taxes just get passed down to the consumer in the form of higher prices.

     And that’s not a “right-wing talking point”. It’s entry-level economics.

     • Assuming that there is no competition. That is also entry level economics.

       • The competition is paying the same taxes, aren’t they?

       • quote—————drednicolson September 30, 2021 At 11:40
         The competition is paying the same taxes, aren’t they?——-quote

         Non Sequitur

       • Dacian: Incorrect. Any increase in costs, no matter if it is taxes, cost of materials, labor, modernization, changes in marketing, are all passed to consumers eventually. The company’s target is to maintain or increase their profit margin.

       • quote—————Dacian: Incorrect. Any increase in costs, no matter if it is taxes, cost of materials, labor, modernization, changes in marketing, are all passed to consumers eventually. The company’s target is to maintain or increase their profit margin.———–quote

         Wrong , competition whether it be domestic or foreign forces the greed monger C.E.O’s to make a few million less each month on what they are selling.

       • Spoken like a true bottom feeder who’s never established any wealth for themselves, family or worked for their income.

   • Free territories need all the firearms and ammo manufacturers we can get.

     • adverse6,

       You inspired an amusing thought in me:

       Many people claim that the South lost the Civil War in the United States because the North had virtually all of the manufacturing and the South basically only had agriculture. If that is true, imagine a modern Civil War between the political Far Left on the West and East Coasts and the rest of the country: the political Far Left basically has no firearms nor ammunition manufacturing anymore and the rest of the nation (political centrists and political right) has virtually all of the firearms and ammunition manufacturing. Would that guarantee victory for the rest of the country with political centrists and political right?

       • It wasn’t just manufacturing that the south lacked. Two other big factors were a lack of natural resources (principally iron ore, but also coal to a degree) and a rail system that was decentralized almost to the point of dysfunction. I’m not sure that the resources problem has changed all that much (though, the south does have the edge on petroleum, but not a monopoly).

       • The south also wagered on Britain getting involved to keep the cotton imports coming. But the British found another source instead, and with the Union blockade a major logistical avenue was cut off.

       • “Many people claim that the South lost the Civil War in the United States because the North had virtually all of the manufacturing and the South basically only had agriculture.”

         True back then, not so much now.

         I mourn the loss of institutional knowledge (like hand-fitting) the old gun companies are still in the process of losing as those who know what they were doing are retiring out, but the south has grown exponentially more tech-savvy since then.

         The ‘Gun Valley’ highly-skilled labor pool is evaporating, but new generations of skilled machinists are taking advantage of the job mobility of recent decades and aren’t tied to any one location. That’s advantageous for our our side, since the knowledge base is now far and wide.

         I would like to see the re-emergence in some form of craftsman and apprentice guilds that will will teach the fine arts of hand-fitting gunsmithing, for example. Then get those folks out there passing those skills on down the line…

     • Dacian: “The company’s target is to maintain or increase their profit margin.” This is still true even in a highly competitive market.

       This is not an ad hominem attack on you. I’ve read prior posts from you. Your posts reveal that you are holding on to bitterness and disappointment at life. You probably have a righteousness reason to do so. I don’t know what life has thrown at you and I know nothing of the people who have betrayed your trust. But I know that you have a heavily burdened heart. I sincerely hope life gets better for you. I hope that someone comes into your life and helps you find joy and contentment.

     • To Dave

       quote———–Dacian: “The company’s target is to maintain or increase their profit margin.” This is still true even in a highly competitive market.————-quote

       I never said that it was not as a matter of fact I pointed that out. What I also pointed out was that they were using anti-gun laws as the perfect excuse to screw their workers in Massachusetts, and move to a worker slave troglodyte state that exploits the workers and does not pay them a decent wage and of course little or no benefits. This is not permitted in civilized countries.

       I lived through the last waning days of America when it was great, when there was not only high employment but high wages as well. Workers got excellent benefits, excellent retirement and excellent often paid for health care by the companies they worked for and in many cases free retraining and even loans to go back to tech school or college. Most people on this forum never experienced “the old America” and even do not believe it ever existed the way they bad mouth Unions.

       • Dacian, my oh my, Tennessee hillbillies are now troglodytes? Exploited slave labor? I dont see it.
         Smith &Wesson been fighting the state of Massachusetts for years, they should have moved their business long ago.

       • Dacian, thank you for responding. Dave

   • Bet you are the life of the party. Arrogant and ignorant.

   • Yeah. They could leave, and they did.
     Now go finish your job of becoming the next Illinois.

   • Funny thing is many folks in TN build their own firearms. They have tons of experience. Now they can get paid for it!

   • I wonder if the firearms made in the USSR with the much more fare communist pay structure were made better or worse than American made firearms?
     Since the USSR manufacturers weren’t working for profits, they could put all of the money into the product and workers. I bet they lived like kings! Wonder what happened to them?

     • “made better or worse than American made firearms?”

       During some “lean times” the workers at these factories were paid in vodka.🤔 That fact MAY hold the answer.

       There’s a joke about two Russian factory workers who always have lunch together.
       Worker 1 sez, Lately I’ve been getting sick after lunch.
       Worker 2 sez, Me too. That’s odd because we’ve been eating the same lunch for decades. A potato, washed down with a bottle of vodka.
       After a brief pause Worker 1 sez, Maybe we need to stop eating that potato at lunch.

   • So, dacian. Best leave your Toyota, Ford, Mercedes, Nissan, or GM vehicle in the driveway. Some hillbilly in Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, or Texas probably confused a hammer with a screwdriver and ruined your car at the factory. Please don’t tell NASA about the troglodytes in Texas, Florida, or Alabama. Houston, Kennedy, and Huntsville Space Flight Centers would shut down immediately, I’m sure. And when the troglodyte truth finally comes out, Vanderbilt would relocate to Massachusetts, forthwith. BTW, the roads are paved here in Tennessee, and a few homes have electricity now. Oh, and we recently discovered cell phones and laptops. I could go on, but won’t. I’m one of those downtrodden Tennessee troglodytes (with two graduate degrees). Welcome Smith and Wesson. You will enjoy life in Tennessee.

     • 👍

     • You left out Kia(Georgia), BMW(South Carolina), Glock(Georgia), HK(Georgia), Taurus (Georgia), Oak Ridge National Laboratory (Tennessee)and The Manhattan Project 😉

   • Did George Soros write your blog ? Maybe it was one of the politicians from New York !!

3. The manufacturing moving south is somewhat ironic considering it was a huge edge for the North in The Civil War.

   • At the time all the Democrats were down South. Now they’re all up North. Outcome will be the same for them the second time around as it was the first.

4. NSSF and SAAMI are just down the road from Sandy Hook school in Connecticut. When will they make the move?

   • Neither is a firearms manufacturer, so neither are impacted economically by stricter gun laws.

5. Magpul not only moved their manufacturing from Colorado to Wyoming, they also moved their HQ from Colorado to Texas. (It’s literally across the road from my neighborhood. Pity they don’t have a company store at their HQ.)

   You have to give it to Magpul: when Hickenlooper started pushing Colorado’s standard capacity mag ban, Magpul said, “if you pass this, we are leaving and taking all the jobs out of state.” Colorado passed it, and Magpul immediately followed through with its promise.

   • They had a thing called the Boulder Airlift where they were expediting in-state orders for mags and handing them out at brick and mortars.

     Colorado used to be such a cool state. Doesn’t feel like home anymore.

   • Hahahahaha. Really.
     Magpul did the hi-cap mag airlifts to California when there was a lapse in mag limit restrictions there. That was around the same time as the move.
     I supported them hard at that time, upgraded my AR rifles to GenM3 mags ONLY.
     Purchased several drum mags in each caliber, and 10 packs of hi-cap mags in almost all capacities.

6. This is not good for gun rights — or what’s left of gun rights — in the Commonwealth of Massivetwoshits. S&W meant a lot to the economy of Springfield (a city that would serve the world better as a hazardous waste dump) so the asshats of Beacon Hill were less aggressively anti-gun so as not to kill the Golden Goose. All bets are off now.

   I saw this coming when the state approved casino gambling in Springfield and MGM built its billion-dollar complex there. Once reliance on S&W was reduced, the handwriting was on the wall. Mene mene tekel upharsin.

7. love it. it’s pretty sad for a company with such a history there, but ultimately it’s the only move to make

8. Wonder if they’ll ditch the frame lock now, but probably not worth the retooling effort and nobody wants to be seen as making their product “less safe” in this day and age.

9. The Bible belt just gets more and more guns. The Porn belt just gets more and more degenerate.

   • Yup. That’s a fact.
     But in today’s world your wrong to hold a bible and right to hold a Playboy.
     Martin Luther King wouldn’t get to far.

     • “But in today’s world your wrong to hold a bible and right to hold a Playboy.”

       The smart ones *cough*, take a medium-sized travel Bible, zippered in leather case preferably decades old, and razor-blade out the outline of a gun in the pages.

       It’s fascinating how crooks, when tossing a place, rarely ever touch the Bible sitting in its zippered leather case, right under their noses… 😉

10. Recall the senility ravaged geniuses and his totalitarian acollytes have made it clear if conservatives in the ‘hillbilly’ states resist the DC swamp they will use nuclear weapons on their opposition. OH sucg culturally enlightened are our eastern betters progs.

    • Better to be irradiated as free men and women than live to be modern-day serfs.

      Let’s see them grow anything in fallout-ridden soil afterwards.

    • The United States is not going to nuke the United States no matter what happens.
      If our government wanted to it could put the hurt on its people in other ways without harming the land or water at all.
      We’ve got a good country and a good government, it just needs to get its priorities straight.

      • Good government? In no way, shape, or form is this accurate or true. We have an excellent FRAMEWORK for a government, but what hangs off of that framework is not good. It has become solely self-serving and of such size and bloat that it no longer has any sense of service to the ENTIRE population of this great nation. It consumes 50 cents of every dollar of revenue just TO FUNCTION, much less deliver service or value. It needs to be pruned and thinned to become more aware of its true function – SERVING THE PEOPLE.

11. Are mandates by some person the same as laws passed by the legislature ?

12. Migration itself is very difficult to understand because it has many details. I have spent a lot of time researching these issues, including writing an article https://studymoose.com/free-essays/the-great-migration on a resource with free essay samples. In this case, migration was directly affected by the rule of supply and demand in the marketplace. It is similar to the processes of migration for education or other benefits of moving to another area.

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