SIG SAUER Introduces the FOXTROT1X Rail Mounted Light

1. Cool!

   • Oh is this made in ‘Merica???

     • TTAG can NEVER bring themselves to disclose the country of origin (To hell with the chicoms)

2. Polymer or aluminum? Where is it manufactured?

3. A “massive” 450 lumens? The Olight PL Minis I have on my guns throw 600 lumens and have a slimmer profile.

   https://www.olightstore.com/olight-pl-mini-2-black-1.html

   And before anyone starts screaming “but it’s not made here in America!…”, yes I hear you, but you’ll note that Sig Sauer’s page for their new FoxTrot1x says nothing about its own place of manufacture. If it were made in the good ‘ol U.S.A., they’d be certain to trumpet that fact to attract more of us.

   • Mostly I want to know origin and material to gauge where this stacks up with the other options or competition. Is this competing with surefire, or stream light, or o light, or random tactical light four color led and three lasers for $19.99?

     It doesn’t have a ton of bells and whistles, so with the Sig name you would be thinking “I’m paying for a military grade brand, quality, euro/us arms manufacturer” but are you getting a rebranded Chinese light?

     I know this was the case with their Romeos, the marketing screams “we are gonna be tijicon/aimpoint” but they first dumped a whole bunch of various grade and price point red dots on the market, similar thing, that cheap Romeo5 or 4A/B wasn’t much different than a primary arms or holosun, wait there was that other $399+ FBI picked Romeo4, which one is the “good” one, etc.

     Sig is expanding into these other areas but it is still a question if whether they want to be a leader in these other areas like lights or just want to resell some branded merch in their webshop.

     • I have a Romeo5 on my go-to AR, and I love it. In today’s day and age, I assume pretty much everything is “hecho en China” unless the seller specifically states it’s completely made here in U.S.A.

       Decoupling from Chinese imports in all cases will be a very difficult endeavor, considering we’ve been buying heavily from China for almost three decades now and the stuff is literally everywhere. I purchase “U.S.A.” for things like hand tools and items I plan to hand down to my grandchildren one day. The rest often comes down to price and performance.

       For example, I learned how to drive with a Ford Mustand, 5.0 with 4-speed manual transmission (it had raced against Corvettes and Panteras). Then my first car that I personally owned was a Ford. Then my first truck was a Ford, etc. etc. Was a Ford man my whole life. Then my truck threw a rod (at 491K miles believe it or not!) in 2005 and I needed to get a new one. Ford’s quality was in the dumps at the time, and their Ranger series was horrible. So I swallowed my pride, test drove a Toyota, and was hooked. Excellent engineering and reliability, even though it was imported.

       • Panteras had Ford 351s in them. Not very impressive really. I shoe-horned a 70 Lincoln 460 with the C6 into my 69 F-100 with big tube Hooker Headers and all that crap. Man did that old truck get up and snort. I could stomp just about every car that came down the road and challenged me, including Corvettes.

       • True, cars from the ’70s and ’80s (following the short-lived ‘muscle car’ years between about ’67-’72) weren’t all that much compared to today, but that 1982 Mustang had a great motor with really tall gears in the 4-speed box. Made for great fun smoking challengers from a red light (note to any 16-yr-olds reading this…don’t do what I did; I’m lucky to be alive today after some of the stunts I pulled behind the wheel back then).

         The point is that I started off with a strong domestic brand, continued with it, and remained loyal for two decades until that brand’s reliability became second in line behind the import brand I ended up choosing. Is Ford a great brand again today? Maybe, and I wish them well. But their decline fifteen years ago was enough to lose me as a lifetime customer.

         I *do* miss the Panteras. Haven’t seen one in many years now.

       • Toyota trucks have the added benefit of the best resale value which is something to consider when making a purchase. Panteras are still cool. They used to be cheap. Not anymore.

   • Sig is pretty famous for importing parts from China and then putting them together in New Hampshire and saying they’re “100% Made in America”.

     They pull this scam with some of their optics as well.

4. Big light, lower lumens, non rechargeable battery for 1.5 hrs, Expensive price? What’s to like?

5. Looking at the photo, it appears the beam is adjustable?

   • If its like the Streamlight you turn the end cap towards the open circle to not be able to accidently turn the light on and have your battery drain. I understand the point of that but I would want my light ready at the moment and not have to turn the end to allow it to turn on.

6. $129.99 and no strobe? Sorry, I’ll pass.
   FYI, a strobe setting is great for disorienting the person on the receiving end.
   If the light doesn’t blind them, the strobe will disorient them.
   (Or if nothing else, it will make them start dancing a disco beat! Just kidding, LOL).
   But unlike my $19.99 no-name brand that’s probably made in the same country, this Sig doesn’t have it.

   Instead of a useful feature like a strobe, according to Sig’s website, this light has:
   “Stealth ID™
   Electro-Optics industrial design inspired by our legendary firearms; deflection armor trapezoidal surfacing breaks up the shape and visibility of the optic along with pistol slide serrations and grip checkering to add function to the form of all SIG SAUER electro-optics.”

   Huh? WTF does that mean?
   A stealthy shape on a 450 lumen light that’s supposed to render it invisible to surface-to-air radar, or what?

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