Turkeys Can Be Elusive This Time of Year…Have You Bagged Yours Yet?

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  1. Stuff is plentiful in Central Florida (wild AND domestic), must be that good livin’ thing we got goin on… Must really suck in those Blue states….

  2. A couple of years ago, one of my sons texted a picture of me asleep in the woods
    with a deer in the background and a turkey sitting in my lap.
    To be fair, the turkey was photoshopped – I wish that I could shoot wildlife on my property… I had five turkeys pecking at a basement window last week, probably at the same time the deer were finishing up the hostas along the driveway.

  3. Years ago, Dear Wife had a little chihuahua. She let it out to go potty, then he started sniffing around. Spotted a bird, and went into defensive attack mode, chasing after the bird. I looked out a window when I heard this. Strutting out of the woods, across the cleared acre, and into the woods again, was a string of turkeys. Didn’t see the first turkeys, didn’t see the last turkeys, but I counted 52 turkeys. When the silly chihuahua realized he was so badly outnumbered, he turned tail, and ran yipping to the house. Dear Wife required me to leave the window, and let her beast back into the house.

    For whatever reasons, I don’t hunt turkeys. Yeah, I could bag them year round, if I wanted, but I don’t mess with them. I don’t bother the squirrels, either. Maybe if I get hungry . . .

    • In 2020 one of our dogs chased a turkey into a pile of brush and tree limbs a friend and I had piled up after cutting down some trees in the area adjoining our properties. Turkey got trapped in the pile for a short time trying to get away from the dog, friend says “You gonna bag that or should I?”

      (Nah, we didn’t. Turkey got away unmolested but Bosco, our dog, came really close to having a turkey dinner.)

    • {Turkeys}

      “…we’re lousy with the things.”

      ‘Air Rats’, then?

      I made reservations for Thanksgiving dinner. No planning, no having to shop for everything, no prep work, no cooking, no cleanup, just a dent in the wallet.

      Well worth it, this year… 🙂

  4. This year’s turkey came from Amos Miller’s Organic Amish farm near Lancaster, PA. You might have seen Tucker’s coverage of how Miller’s Organic is being persecuted by the FDA. Glenn Beck covered it. So did Del Bigtree (The Highwire), Mike Adam’s (Natural News), and Alex Jones.

    Amos is a true American hero.

  5. A few years back there was one that hung around my office (right next to state park) a co-worker thought it would be fun to see how it responded to a recording of turkey sounds on the new smart phone he was so proud of. According to at least one witness the recording he apparently chose to play for Tom was a tom turkey challenge. He found out that day that wild turkeys aren’t exactly friendly to challengers!

  6. [True story]
    11-23-2014 one of my dogs was barking, I let him out of the house, he ran behind the house into the timber and came back with a hen turkey. Him and his sister both died in 2017. I dont Turkey hunt anymore.

  7. Trivia…

    In the United States the FBI estimates there are around 40 serial killers active at any one time.

    The state with the highest number of serial killers (not thought to be active currently or recently in the state but subjects of investigations and not yet located) is California with 1,832

    The state with the highest number of serial killers (believed to have been active in the state in the last 10 months but not yet located) is California with 5,128.

    Women commit ~18% of murders.

    Law abiding gun owners who become non-law abiding criminals commit less than .03% of any category of crime.

    80% – 85% of shooting ‘Homicide’ in official stats for the United States are a mixture of criminal-on-criminal shootings, law enforcement shooting criminal, and ordinary law abiding citizens acting in valid legal justified defense by defensive gun use against criminals.

    Ordinary law abiding citizens acting in valid legal justified defense by defensive gun use, actually fire shots less than 5% of the time.

    ~12% of criminals committing a violent crime use a firearm. ~88% of criminals committing a violent crime use a ‘weapon’ other than a firearm.

    ~1,300 (actually its increased to ~1,700 now but hasn’t stabilized there yet so I’ll stick with the stable point of ~1,300 for now) criminal knife attacks upon victims daily across the United States.

    ~3,500 (actually this has increased also to ~4,000 but hasn’t stabilized there yet so I’ll stick with the stable point of ~3,500 for now) criminal attacks upon victims daily across the United States by use of non-firearm ‘weapons’ (excluding knives) for example, hands/feet, bricks/rocks, bats, ligatures, vehicles, other ‘improvised weapons’ such as screw drivers or even #2 pencils and pens (just for schools alone last year there were ~ 38,000 such criminal attacks in school building or on school grounds against students and staff during school hours where ‘schools’ includes college campus also).

    Over 85% of ordinary law abiding firearm armed citizens employing DGU against criminals (armed or not) attacks do so successfully without being injured. Over 80% of ordinary law abiding citizens not armed with a firearm are seriously/gravely injured by criminals (armed or not) attacks.

    A person armed with a firearm is 94% more likely to escape harm during a crime against them by not complying with defensive gun use than a person not armed with a firearm.

    70% of the overall violent crime in the country takes place (collectively) in cities with democrat leadership but also have the fewest number of guns in the hands of criminals (compared to the rest of the country not democrat held cities). These also release from custody more multiple offense violent criminals every 48 hours (~17,000 across the country) than any other areas in the country.

    The average violent criminal offender has committed at least 8 violent crimes against victims before they are arrested for any single crime.

    In the last 12 months 2.3 million law abiding ordinary people have reported using legal justified defensive gun use to police – ~1.6 million were placed in official reports.

    ~66% of ‘ruled’ firearm suicides are later found to be either accident or murder. These are never removed from firearm suicide stats thus keeping such stats falsely inflated and deceptive.

    Non-firearm daily things annually are responsible for (below):

    An average of 168,000 children are treated in the emergency department each year for toy-related injuries (SafeKids.org).

    Each year, an average of 29.5 million injuries and deaths are caused by defective products ( Consumer Product Safety Commission).

    Defective products kill more than 22,000 people every year in the United States (Consumer Product Safety Commission ).

    Over 2,000,000 (collectively) seriously injured or killed annually in car accidents and over 90,000 of them are kids under the age of 12. (CDC) (a combined total of about 1.2 million will die later as a result of complications from car accident injury – these are not included in car accident deaths stats)

    Stairs, Ramps, Landings, Floors result (collectively) in serious injury or death to over 2,700,000 million annually. (NSC)

    Beds, Pillows, Mattresses result in (collectively) serious injury or death to over 824,000 annually. (NSC)

    Chairs, Sofas, Sofa Beds result in (collectively) serious injury or death to over 558,000 annually. (NSC)

    Faulty glass table tops result in millions of (collective) injuries and deaths annually – about 2.5 million. Mostly kids under age 7 and young adults in their early 20’s. Injuries range from minor abrasions and damage to major organs and vessels, to death. 50% of the injured suffer injuries to their deep organs, upper torso, abdomen or joint cavities and require surgery; 8% of the injured die within a month of injury (about 100,000, deaths from complications due to injury).

    Just injury alone, normal household non-firearm consumer product injuries totaled ~12,000,000 in 2021.

    Drug overdoses result in over 100,000 suicide deaths annually (CDC)

    More than 250,000 people in the U.S. die annually due to medical errors (AKA malpractice). ~27% of hospital deaths attributed to gun shot are actually a result of medical errors (AKA malpractice).

    Considering daily life non-firearm ‘things’ that can result in injury or death – society is literally over 1,500 times safer around firearms than any other thing.

    • Clarification: “Over 85% of ordinary law abiding firearm armed citizens employing DGU against criminals (armed or not) attacks do so successfully without being injured. Over 80% of ordinary law abiding citizens not armed with a firearm are seriously/gravely injured by criminals (armed or not) attacks.”

      ‘attacks’ meaning commission of a crime

      • “Over 2,000,000 (collectively) seriously injured or killed annually in car accidents and over 90,000 of them are kids under the age of 12. (CDC) (a combined total of about 1.2 million will die later as a result of complications from car accident injury”

        That stat is just astonishing! I thought vehicles were much safer than that although with much lighter vehicles for fuel efficiency I can see why injuries may be unavoidable.

    • To add:

      The number one preventable and/or treatable cause of suicide and mass murder and crime is adverse mental health issues.

      ~25,000 known violent people are released from state/city/hospital mental health treatment facilities every 24 hours across the nation. Over 75% of these will commit a violent crime within 72 hours of their release.

      A person is targeted as a potential victim of a violent crime at least three times for every 8 hours they spend in public view.

      On average (in a city type environment with a population of 10,000 or more), a person in public view for at least 1 hour encounters passively by proximity, without knowing, at least 36 violent people who have committed a seriously injurious violent act against another in the last 48 hours. This can people you pass on the street, in a store shopping, driving in traffic, a school staff member etc… just about any place.

      Nationwide; 1 out of 4 educational institution staff members (public or private schools k-12 and universities) have a history of sexual molestation or grooming of students and conducting sexual violence either against students or other school staff members.

      • To add:

        ~30% of guns taken in through gun buy backs in 2021 were found to be circulating among criminal elements and being used in crimes within two weeks after the buy back. These were called ‘ghost guns’ in various crime reports and media and by politicians and law enforcement.

      • clarification: “The number one preventable and/or treatable cause of suicide and mass murder and crime is adverse mental health issues.”

        Mental illness can exist without a diagnosis of mental illness, and mental illness is not necessarily ‘insanity’ (as in the DSM-5). Mental illness can be long term or short term, it can happen in a moment and be gone the next, it can be elusive or occasional, it can be noticed and not noticed, sometimes the person is the last one to know they have a mental illness, and it can manifest in various forms that the medical mental heath community recognize as a disorder of some type but can’t define it or treat it but they know it exists even if its not in the DSM-5 as a mental health disorder. And indeed the vast majority of individuals with such impulses to murder mostly continue to function in society (marginally) and do not typically seek out mental health treatment so their mental illness is not diagnosed or treated and society sees their marginal function in society as, basically, just them being them with no thought of they being mentally ill so overall these people are not recognized as being mentally ill until an incident happens such as violence that says something is not right if such an incident happens. Unfortunately, that violence may be murder and that murder may also come in the form of mass/school shootings.

        So we end up with basically two broad classes of mentally ill, those that have violent impulse mental illness and those that do not have violent impulse mental illness – in either class there can be diagnosed or not diagnosed. So not all people with mental illness are the violent impulse types and they should not be stigmatized as such and its theses who do not become mass/school shooters – but there are people with violent impulse mental illness in society and they mostly are not recognized until they begin to exhibit something that indicates the pressure is building for them to act on the violent impulses.

        Unfortunately, all to frequently that violent impulse mental illness person is not noticed or not stopped before they can act on the driving forces pressure of the violent impulse – and this matches the mass/school shooter profile exactly. Suddenly one day, after time dwelling on it they give in to the violent impulse and do it.

        Forensic psychiatrists James L. Knoll IV, MD, and George D. Annas, MD, MPH, of SUNY Upstate Medical University in Syracuse New York, both leading authorities on the mental health aspects of mass/school shooters, summed it up for the mental health community various studies on various aspects in terms of mass/school shooters…. Although mass shooters may not meet DSM-5 criteria for a recognized disorder, “they do have an ill-defined trouble of the mind for which the mental health field has no immediate, quick-acting ‘treatment,’” – in other words, mass/school shooters do have mental illness but not something clearly defined and for which the mental health community has no immediate quick-acting treatment, such treatment includes diagnosis so its a mental illness that has not yet been diagnosed.

        However, ~90% of mass/school shooters and suicidal people and criminals very obviously and ‘publicly’ (e.g. in public view, social media, in front of family or friends, at work, etc…) exhibit preventable and/or treatable mental health illness by some sort of diagnosis indicating “they do have an ill-defined trouble of the mind” even if there is no “immediate, quick-acting ‘treatment’” and such is not defined in the DSM-5 as a ‘recognized disorder’, to quell or resolve or treat the mental health illness directly. The number one preventable and/or treatable cause of suicide and mass murder and crime is adverse mental health issues, even if that “preventable and/or treatable” is a diagnosis of an “ill-defined trouble of the mind”.

    • correction for “Stairs, Ramps, Landings, Floors result (collectively) in serious injury or death to over 2,700,000 million annually. (NSC)”

      should have been…

      Stairs, Ramps, Landings, Floors result (collectively) in serious injury or death to over 2,700,000 annually. (NSC)

  8. clarification and correction: “A person armed with a firearm is 94% more likely to escape harm during a crime against them by not complying with defensive gun use than a person not armed with a firearm.”

    That should have been…

    “A person armed with a firearm is 94% more likely to escape harm during a crime against them by not complying with defensive gun use, than a person not armed with a firearm and complying or resisting by other means”

    Use of a firearm early in the encounter reduces the risk of of injury to ~6%.

    • correction again…. why is word press not posting part of what I write?

      “A person armed with a firearm is 94% more likely to escape harm during a crime against them by not complying with defensive gun use, than a person not armed with a firearm and complying or resisting by other means”

      should have been…

      A person armed with a firearm is 94% more likely to escape harm during a crime against them by not complying and with employing defensive gun use, than a person not armed with a firearm and complying or resisting by other means

  9. Bagged my ever first turkey last week.
    Scared the shit out of everyone in the frozen foods section at the store.

    (I’ll be here all week…)

  10. Gee thanks Booger, now I’m too scared to leave my house and now I gotta keep an eye on my recliner cause it’s out to get me!

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